#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2017-06-02

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[05:55:09] <deep42thought> phillid: partly, it's missing source, some were complaining about a too new bash, some about a too old kernel
[05:59:24] <deep42thought> the fraction of not compilable packages shifts down to 10% (101 of 1082)
[05:59:52] <deep42thought> but it takes a considerable amount of time to put the new packages into the *-staging databases O.o
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[06:18:52] <deep42thought> phillid: If you want to get an impression of what is broken: https://eckner.net
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[07:15:49] <brtln> I guess all these also fail @ Arch
[07:16:00] <brtln> just nobody cared to check it as there is no CI]
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[07:55:16] <phillid> and/or they were built a while ago
[07:55:39] <phillid> So until there is an update, nobody notices or cares
[07:56:03] <phillid> Perhaps for these packages, if it is the case that they were built ages ago and haven't been updated, we could just assume the Arch binaries
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[08:17:28] <deep42thought> using the arch binaries should work for all packages - I just wanted to check the build environment
[08:20:07] <brtln> yeah, but you are going to hit these problems anyway if you decide to rebuild the world for i486 and i586
[08:20:21] <deep42thought> that's tru
[08:20:22] <deep42thought> e
[08:20:36] <deep42thought> but i486 and i586 has other issues I won't solve now
[08:21:35] <deep42thought> e.g. "setarch" only sets the bittiness and not the machine name - thus we need to patch the devtools a lot
[08:21:46] <deep42thought> s/name/architecture/
[08:24:02] <brtln> you mean CARCH?
[08:24:27] <deep42thought> I mean, what's reported by "uname -m"
[08:24:44] <deep42thought> pacman uses this if you set "arch=auto"
[08:24:49] <deep42thought> (I guess)
[08:24:58] <alexandre9099> is there any already "made" image to flash on an sd card? i'm going to use a sd card as a disk of a old laptop (the internal 1.8' disk was allways failing)
[08:25:43] <deep42thought> so pacstrap, pacman -Syu, pacman -U try to install i686 packages even if you have CARCH=i486 and "setarch i486"
[08:26:23] <deep42thought> alexandre9099: depending on what you need, the installation medium itself might suit your needs
[08:27:22] <alexandre9099> well, i need to install a graphical interface on it and it should presist on reboots
[08:28:34] <deep42thought> the installation medium is just an arch system - if it's copied to a disk, you can install stuff in it (not only "with it onto a different disk")
[08:28:57] <deep42thought> but: why don't you want to go through a normal install?
[08:29:17] <alexandre9099> lazy to do the internet install :D
[08:31:11] <deep42thought> In my opinion, using an image from stack just creates additional work
[08:32:17] <deep42thought> it's never the way you want it and it's hard to find all the details you don't like and want otherwise - in the end: isn't the point of using arch to be in control of and involved in your system?
[08:35:00] <alexandre9099> yep
[08:37:52] <alexandre9099> deep42thought, arch is just written to the pen with dd, right?
[08:38:01] <deep42thought> yes
[08:38:31] <alexandre9099> omg 507510784 bytes (508 MB, 484 MiB) copied, 5.19647 s, 97.7 MB/s
[08:38:32] <alexandre9099> :D
[08:39:39] <deep42thought> let me know if that iso works - then I move them from testing to stable :-)
[08:40:26] <alexandre9099> yea, i think i downloaded the more recent one
[08:40:32] <alexandre9099> yep archlinux-2017.06.01-i686.iso
[08:40:44] <deep42thought> yes, just checked the size you reported ;-)
[08:40:47] <alexandre9099> you should provide checksums just in case :D
[08:40:52] <deep42thought> oh
[08:40:54] <deep42thought> hmm
[08:41:02] <alexandre9099> it booted
[08:43:44] <deep42thought> ok, moved it
[08:44:07] <alexandre9099> do you know any good irc client for console?
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[08:44:45] <deep42thought> no, I use irssi on console, but I have no idea if it's good
[08:45:01] <deep42thought> I'm usually on x
[08:45:49] <alexandre9099> me too, but now i'm going to be on console installing arch
[08:45:53] <alexandre9099> my main pc broke
[08:46:14] <alexandre9099> pacman -Syu "There is nothing to do" :D
[08:46:25] <deep42thought> built it yesterday
[08:46:48] <deep42thought> and it's not much installed
[08:46:59] <alexandre9099> wait, is irrsi already installed :D
[08:47:08] <deep42thought> I don't think so
[08:48:02] <alexandre9099> yes it is
[08:48:27] <deep42thought> someone planned ahead
[08:48:33] <alexandre9099> i'm here on console
[08:48:38] <alexandre9099> does this work?
[08:48:42] <deep42thought> yes
[08:48:48] <alexandre9099> cool :
[08:48:53] <alexandre9099> )
[08:48:58] <alexandre9099> now let's install
[09:01:13] <alexandre9099> irssi is actually interestin
[09:05:05] <alexandre9099> deep42thought: i think i just messed this... i was partitioning the disk and didnt take look on which disk was selected... i accidentaly selected the install media
[09:05:22] <deep42thought> :-D
[09:05:37] <alexandre9099> is it possible to recover the partition table?
[09:05:59] <deep42thought> you can just dd it from the iso again
[09:06:08] <alexandre9099> why would photorec be on the iso?"
[09:07:58] <alexandre9099> the problem is that i'm not near the pc with the iso
[09:08:20] <deep42thought> I think, you can dd it from within the live system itself
[09:08:27] <deep42thought> if it's still running
[09:08:39] <deep42thought> do you have enough ram to hold the iso in it?
[09:09:00] <deep42thought> I mean additionally to the currently running live medium
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[09:14:05] <alexandre9099> dont think so
[09:14:08] <alexandre9099> i have 2gb
[09:14:20] <deep42thought> that should fit, I think
[09:14:31] <deep42thought> do you have the iso file somewhere around?
[09:14:50] <alexandre9099> no :(
[09:14:56] <alexandre9099> i just had it on that computer
[09:15:07] <alexandre9099> i think there was a tool to recover partition tables
[09:17:29] <alexandre9099> since the partitions were already mounted maybe it can work
[09:17:35] <alexandre9099> let's try to install to disk
[09:17:38] <alexandre9099> wish me luck
[09:18:01] <deep42thought> \me is crossing fingers
[09:18:16] <alexandre9099> XD
[09:18:17] <deep42thought> I'm out of exercise
[09:19:06] <alexandre9099> creating journal (hopefully on the right disk :D)
[09:19:24] <deep42thought> :-D
[09:19:54] <alexandre9099> this needs to be done in 5 minutes
[09:20:11] <alexandre9099> "you can do it! you can do it!" :d
[09:21:15] <alexandre9099> which graphical interface should i install? xfce?
[09:21:30] <deep42thought> depends on what you like
[09:21:33] <alexandre9099> atom n270 btw
[09:21:49] <alexandre9099> well, i like plasma and kde tools
[09:22:13] <alexandre9099> but i think that is too heavy for this computer
[09:22:18] <alexandre9099> 3 minutes
[09:22:21] <alexandre9099> i can do it!
[09:22:40] <alexandre9099> well.... if my internet helped
[09:23:15] <alexandre9099> maybe the mirror are too far :/
[09:23:39] <alexandre9099> deep42thought: did you sorted the mirorrs?
[09:23:54] <deep42thought> the iso is currently the normal arch iso
[09:24:08] <deep42thought> it's still using the old mirrors
[09:24:33] <alexandre9099> strange that it is so slow
[09:24:50] <deep42thought> just edit the mirrorlist to your likings
[09:25:56] <alexandre9099> let's see if putting portugal on top makes it any better
[09:26:11] <alexandre9099> not by much...
[09:26:38] <alexandre9099> well i have to go... not sure if suspending is going to mess this
[09:26:55] <deep42thought> cu later!
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[11:04:48] <alexandre9099> i'm back
[11:04:53] <alexandre9099> still installing
[11:05:00] <deep42thought> wb
[11:05:10] <alexandre9099> i lost internet this morning
[11:05:15] <alexandre9099> wb?
[11:05:19] <deep42thought> welcome back
[11:05:28] <alexandre9099> :)
[11:05:50] <alexandre9099> let's see it finished downloading a few minutes ago
[11:05:55] <alexandre9099> now it is installing
[11:06:00] <alexandre9099> 19/147
[11:06:56] <alexandre9099> let's see if i didn't miss anything on the install guide :D
[11:07:32] <alexandre9099> is there any difference now on this images and the official ones?
[11:07:44] <deep42thought> no
[11:07:46] <deep42thought> not yet
[11:08:05] <deep42thought> well, there _are_ no official ones anymore
[11:08:19] <alexandre9099> i could do a mirror of future repos, but my network is a little bit slow :(
[11:08:22] <deep42thought> but it's the same it used to be (except newer packages, of course)
[11:08:30] <alexandre9099> yea, they dropped support onfebruary, right?
[11:08:39] <deep42thought> for the iso, right
[11:08:53] <deep42thought> the repositories are still in place
[11:09:00] <deep42thought> and they're still being used by this image
[11:09:09] <deep42thought> the new repo is a work in progress
[11:09:20] <alexandre9099> actually it makes sense, but they could make the i686 iso separated from the x86_x64 one
[11:09:46] <alexandre9099> what is the size of the main repos?
[11:10:01] <alexandre9099> what a mirror do? just hosts the binarys?
[11:10:16] <alexandre9099> installing... 76/147 :)
[11:10:34] <deep42thought> ~40G currently, but might get larger (upto 60?)
[11:10:52] <deep42thought> well, it also makes sense to drop i686 support completely if the devs don't use it
[11:11:16] <alexandre9099> well, i have more than enough space for that, i just have a kinda limited bandwidth :( (20mbits down 10mbit up)
[11:11:34] <deep42thought> if your uplink is slow (say <100Mbit), I wouldn't start a mirror
[11:11:58] <deep42thought> there is enough other stuff you may contribute, though ;-)
[11:12:05] <deep42thought> e.g. testing
[11:12:06] <alexandre9099> okey i think the max that my operator supports via 4G is 50mbit XD
[11:12:39] <alexandre9099> installing linux, yey
[11:14:08] <alexandre9099> updating module dependencies
[11:15:08] <alexandre9099> i hope this installs in less than 5 minutes
[11:16:55] <alexandre9099> deep42thought: even if i had 100 mbit uplink it would not help since the only computer i have 24/7 is a raspberry pi 3b :D
[11:17:21] <deep42thought> well, if it serves fast enough, it suffices
[11:17:33] <alexandre9099> i might try xfce :)
[11:17:53] <alexandre9099> yea, it is not that slow, if is faster than the computer i'm installing arch on right now
[11:18:03] <alexandre9099> *it is faster
[11:18:28] <deep42thought> and it already has a community operated arch repository for its architecture
[11:19:14] <alexandre9099> i could have a arm server serving x64_x86 binarys :D
[11:19:30] <alexandre9099> (cmon gcc, why you take so long)
[11:54:35] <alexandre9099> installing xfce4 (meta or group, not sure?)
[11:55:10] <alexandre9099> there seem to be no complains on dmesg about the install media
[11:56:44] <deep42thought> ah, you recovered the partition table?
[11:57:12] <alexandre9099> nope, but it did not failed since i modified it
[11:57:21] <deep42thought> :-/
[11:57:27] <alexandre9099> maybe because it was already mounted :D
[11:57:32] <deep42thought> until you try to access the end of your file system
[11:57:51] <deep42thought> or maybe you increased the size?
[11:58:17] <alexandre9099> nope, deleted and create a 57GB ext4 partition and a 1GB swap
[11:58:32] <alexandre9099> (the disk is a 64GB sd card :D)
[12:00:06] <deep42thought> well, that's larger than the install medium
[12:00:33] <alexandre9099> yea, i know :D
[12:00:58] <alexandre9099> the thing that made me confuse the two storages was the size, both are 64GB (the pen and the sdcard :D)
[12:01:01] <deep42thought> then, everything is fine - you may now even enlarge the filesystem of the install medium with "resize2fs"
[12:01:12] <deep42thought> ;-)
[12:01:34] <alexandre9099> but the install media was a efi partition and swap
[12:02:25] <deep42thought> hmm, dunno
[12:02:56] <alexandre9099> anyway, it is installing the packages i saied for it to install, grub xfce llibreoffice and other stuff :D
[12:03:13] <alexandre9099> i have to go for now, see you later ;)
[12:03:20] <deep42thought> cu
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[12:59:47] <alexandre9099> xfwm4-themes is taking a lot of time installing :/
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[14:56:43] <alexandre9099> deep42thought: system installed, lets see if i can start the gui
[14:58:26] <alexandre9099> did you recived this message?
[14:58:30] <deep42thought> yes
[14:59:13] <deep42thought> but there was no question or imperative in it, so I was unsure what to answer :-/
[15:01:05] <alexandre9099> :D the thing is that the irc on the network i am now is allways failing, so i asked
[15:02:18] <alexandre9099> lets see, it seems like lightdm does not have x as a dependecy... but lightdm needs it
[15:02:41] <deep42thought> yeah, I think you need to install them separately
[15:03:16] <alexandre9099> i think x should be a dependency for lightdm but ok :D anyway, i'm installing it
[15:05:04] <deep42thought> I'm not sure - maybe you can also run it with wayland (but I'm absolutely no expert in these things)
[15:05:36] <alexandre9099> me netiher ;D
[15:05:48] <alexandre9099> still installing... slow internet connection
[15:06:44] <deep42thought> ok, I have to leave now
[15:07:01] <alexandre9099> np
[15:07:14] <deep42thought> package builds are looking good - removed one bottleneck, so they might be ready by the end of the weekend :-)
[15:07:19] <deep42thought> cu
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[21:49:41] <alexandre9099> deep42thought: hi, i'm here again
[21:49:58] <alexandre9099> it seems like the system is working fine
[22:04:06] <alexandre9099> i cant make the time to work...
[22:04:25] <alexandre9099> ntp does not want to sync time
[22:09:29] <alexandre9099> ntp -g -n -q seemed to solve the problem