#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2017-07-19

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[06:49:54] <tyzoid_> deep42thought: w
[06:49:57] <tyzoid_> wb*
[06:53:07] <deep42thought> hi
[06:57:00] <deep42thought> Do we want to create a mid-July iso to mitigate the keyring problem?
[07:04:05] <deep42thought> and we should test to install packages from testing, so we can finally move them s
[07:04:09] <deep42thought> to stabe
[07:06:56] <tyzoid_> deep42thought: I've got a vagrant box exporting for the testing stuff
[07:10:20] <deep42thought> nice :-)
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[07:23:45] <deep42thought> tyzoid_: is it online somewhere?
[07:24:45] <tyzoid_> deep42thought: deep42thought It's currently uploading
[07:25:12] <tyzoid_> deep42thought: It's nearly 2gb, as I included a full install of xfce4
[07:26:27] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[07:26:37] <tyzoid_> deep42thought: It'll show up here when complete, though: http://dl.tyzoid.com
[07:26:39] <phrik> Title: Index of /archtest (at dl.tyzoid.com)
[07:27:55] <deep42thought> ok, thanks!
[07:28:02] <deep42thought> Go to bed, get some sleep ;-)
[07:33:04] <tyzoid_> deep42thought: Will do :)
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[14:38:29] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I realized I forgot to install openssh on the vagrant image
[14:38:45] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I've got a build running that fixes it, but I didn't get a chance to upload it before I left for work
[14:38:52] <deep42thought> I'll stop my download immediately
[14:39:02] <deep42thought> np
[14:39:06] <tyzoid> deep42thought: It's still usable, just requires you install openssh
[14:39:23] <deep42thought> ok
[14:39:33] <tyzoid> deep42thought: It's not too bad. When vagrant up completes, it'll error saying it can't connect
[14:39:42] <tyzoid> deep42thought: At that point, you can open your virtualbox ui
[14:39:51] <tyzoid> deep42thought: and right click on the vagrant machine, then click show
[14:39:58] <tyzoid> username vagrant, it'll autologin to tty
[14:40:04] <tyzoid> then sudo pacman -S openssh
[14:40:07] <tyzoid> no password on sudo
[14:40:41] <deep42thought> ok, I'll try that once it's downloaded
[14:41:19] <deep42thought> somehow the download is painfully slow
[14:41:39] <tyzoid> what's the speed?
[14:41:53] <deep42thought> around 100k/s currently
[14:42:02] <tyzoid> very odd
[14:42:09] <tyzoid> let me see if it's something on my end
[14:42:36] <tyzoid> hmm load average nominal
[14:43:17] <tyzoid> number of connections not out of the ordinary
[14:43:58] <deep42thought> can I download the box-file without vagrant "manually" somehow/-where?
[14:44:09] <tyzoid> yeah
[14:44:15] <tyzoid> but it's from the same loc
[14:44:22] <tyzoid> the link I sent yesterday
[14:44:27] <tyzoid> has the box in that folder
[14:44:41] <deep42thought> where do I need to put it?
[14:44:41] <tyzoid> then inside the vagrantfile, you just point it to your local box instead
[14:44:49] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[14:44:51] <tyzoid> deep42thought: wherever, as long as you can point to it
[14:45:03] <tyzoid> deep42thought: let me know if the speed improves with something like wget
[14:45:25] <deep42thought> no, not really
[14:45:51] <tyzoid> deep42thought: running a quick speedtest
[14:46:09] <tyzoid> upload speed reported at 14Mbit
[14:46:16] <deep42thought> strange
[14:46:20] <tyzoid> odd
[14:46:23] <tyzoid> it's supposed to be gigabit
[14:46:31] <deep42thought> I just tried to download from another server (in germany), still ~100kB/s
[14:46:32] <tyzoid> probably another shared user on that node is hogging bw
[14:46:36] <tyzoid> ah
[14:46:46] <tyzoid> so possibly something down/bad route on your end?
[14:46:51] <tyzoid> how many hops to my server?
[14:47:00] <deep42thought> no, I meant 'download your file onto another server
[14:47:01] <deep42thought> '
[14:47:05] <tyzoid> oh
[14:47:10] <tyzoid> hmm
[14:47:17] <tyzoid> let me move it over to my server in new york
[14:47:23] <tyzoid> I'll upload the fixed box there
[14:48:55] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Transfer started. It'll be up in about 10mins
[14:48:57] <tyzoid> http://cdn2.tyzoid.com
[14:48:58] <phrik> Title: Index of /arch (at cdn2.tyzoid.com)
[14:49:34] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Can you do a partial download (wget -c) of the box that's on cdn2.tyzoid.com and see if that has a higher speed?
[14:50:20] <deep42thought> yeah, ~ 5 MB/s
[14:50:23] <deep42thought> 11
[14:50:51] <deep42thought> seems like 100MBit/s
[14:50:51] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Okay, seems my upload speed is a bit slower, so it might be ~20mins
[14:51:30] <tyzoid> deep42thought: yeah, it's closer to it. That server is right on the backbone over to the UK/EU region, so my suspicion was that it's not affected as much by poor routing/traffic in the states
[14:52:02] <deep42thought> btw: I'm currently compiling dependency graphs, so we can track down which packages need the biggest attention
[14:52:10] <deep42thought> like so: https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[14:52:13] <tyzoid> deep42thought: +1
[14:52:44] <tyzoid> deep42thought: We could sent these to the devs of projects that have huge dependency trees but probably shouldn't
[14:52:58] <tyzoid> Kind of like a "fix your sh!t" sort of thing
[14:53:06] <tyzoid> in the joking, loving, arch way, of course.
[14:53:35] <deep42thought> some of these graphs are too big for graphviz to visualize :-/
[14:56:16] <tyzoid> deep42thought: lol
[14:56:22] <tyzoid> how big is too big?
[14:56:48] <deep42thought> more than 500 edges+knots input
[14:57:12] <deep42thought> is my personal limit (it breaks for ~1200 and works for ~100, in between, there are no graphs, so far)
[14:57:23] <tyzoid> ah
[14:57:28] <tyzoid> sounds like a bug
[14:57:41] <tyzoid> or perhaps a feature request
[14:57:57] <deep42thought> https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[14:58:01] <deep42thought> https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[14:58:04] <tyzoid> * Add --stereoscopic option to allow graphs to be viewed in 3d
[14:58:05] <deep42thought> https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[14:58:18] <tyzoid> yup, def a bug
[14:59:03] <deep42thought> I don't care, the huge graphs aren't informative anyway
[14:59:34] <tyzoid> eh, zooming in is nice
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[15:12:03] <tyzoid> deep42thought: The new box finished uploading
[15:12:17] <deep42thought> thanks, I noticed :-)
[15:13:28] <tyzoid> lol, the other server has a download rate of only 8-10mbit from my NY server
[15:13:42] <tyzoid> something is def. up with that node
[15:14:29] <tyzoid> mirror traffic seems nominal, though
[15:14:31] <tyzoid> http://stats.arlm.tyzoid.com
[15:14:33] <phrik> Title: arlm.tyzoid.com stats (at stats.arlm.tyzoid.com)
[15:14:39] <tyzoid> so I don't think the other server there is affected
[15:16:18] <tyzoid> hmm
[15:16:30] <tyzoid> dl speed to that server is affected as well
[15:44:03] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Did the new box work for ya?
[15:44:17] <deep42thought> no, it brings some error "exited with error code 1"
[15:44:26] <deep42thought> but I'm currently busy with something else
[15:44:28] <tyzoid> damn
[15:44:36] <tyzoid> I'll take a look when I get home, then
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[21:42:20] <tyzoid> #archlinux-offtopic
[21:42:29] <tyzoid> whoops
[21:42:29] <deep42thought> Hi tyzoid
[21:42:31] <tyzoid> hi
[21:42:40] <tyzoid> meant to type /join before that :P
[21:42:54] <deep42thought> I guessed so
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[22:18:29] <deep42thought> I found the first package which is _only_ available for i686: slmodem-utils
[22:18:41] <tyzoid> THE HOLY GRAIL
[22:18:47] <tyzoid> IT EXISTS IN ITS MOST PURE FORM
[22:18:58] <tyzoid> IT WILL BURN YOUR SKIN
[22:19:07] <tyzoid> SMITED, SHALL YOU BE
[22:19:21] * tyzoid turns sarcasm filter from 8 to 6
[22:19:30] <tyzoid> *ahem* sorry about that
[22:19:50] <deep42thought> does a lower sarcasm filter mean, you produce more sarcasm?
[22:20:12] <tyzoid> Nah, it's a squelch filter
[22:20:32] <tyzoid> the lower the value, the less sensitive it is, so the less it'll allow through
[22:27:44] <deep42thought> so, should we put this package into our packages git repository or should we simply drop it?
[22:29:03] <deep42thought> build date June 2013 :-/
[22:29:28] <tyzoid> what's it do?
[22:29:38] <deep42thought> "Userspace tools for the Smartlink winmodems"
[22:29:49] <tyzoid> keep it?
[22:30:02] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Drop it if builds start failing because of it
[22:30:08] <deep42thought> ok
[22:30:09] <tyzoid> but if it's causing no problems, why not keep it
[22:30:18] <deep42thought> maintenance burden?
[22:30:30] <deep42thought> we'd need to update its version at some point ...
[22:30:30] <tyzoid> deep42thought: What maintenance?
[22:30:53] <tyzoid> ehh, true. But how often is that necessary?
[22:30:59] <deep42thought> dunno
[22:31:11] <deep42thought> it was last built in June 2013
[22:34:19] <deep42thought> gnaaa "ERROR: Could not download sources"
[22:35:13] <tyzoid> toss?
[22:35:21] <deep42thought> what?
[22:35:32] <tyzoid> toss the package?
[22:37:42] <deep42thought> yeah, it's probably for the best
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