#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2017-10-07

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[13:42:02] <rewbycraft> tyzoid, deep42thought: Good to hear that things are progressing nicely. :)
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[14:21:48] <vboxler> tyziod hello
[14:22:10] <vboxler> tyzoid: hello
[14:22:23] <vboxler> did you have a little time?
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[14:34:28] <fsckd> why do they never stay on for more than a couple of minutes?
[14:35:52] <rewbycraft> Because they're impatient
[14:36:01] <rewbycraft> The golden rule of OSS IRC support: Wait
[14:36:10] <rewbycraft> And "Have patience."
[14:36:49] <fsckd> aye
[14:38:26] <rewbycraft> The ArchLinux addendum to that being: "Be prepared to do your own research."
[14:39:23] <fsckd> haha, indeed
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[16:54:41] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: Yup. deep42thought is doing most of the work, I just build the isos and keep the forum running.
[16:54:56] <rewbycraft> tyzoid: Fair. I just keep the build master and a mirror running. ;)
[16:55:30] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: Did you have any time to help me finish setting up the smtp server?
[16:55:36] <rewbycraft> If we need need some bulk-testing capacity at some point, I got a new server that's pretty beefy.
[16:55:44] <rewbycraft> tyzoid: Sure. Probably tonight
[16:55:50] <rewbycraft> So in maybe 3 or 4 hours
[16:56:05] <tyzoid> ah, I'm going to be out then, going up to see my girlfriend
[16:56:10] <rewbycraft> Tomorrow?
[16:56:20] <tyzoid> sure. You're in France, right?
[16:56:23] <rewbycraft> Nope
[16:56:25] <rewbycraft> Netherlands
[16:56:28] <rewbycraft> My server's in france
[16:56:32] <tyzoid> ah
[16:56:42] <tyzoid> What's your UTC offset? +2?
[16:56:44] <rewbycraft> +1 atm
[16:56:54] <rewbycraft> 16:56 atm
[16:57:01] <rewbycraft> So work the offset out from that
[16:58:00] <tyzoid> so 7pmish tomorrow?
[16:58:10] <rewbycraft> My time or yours?
[16:58:14] <tyzoid> 1900? Your time
[16:58:25] <tyzoid> It's 10:58 here right now
[16:58:26] <rewbycraft> Can you do 8pm? 7 is when I usually shower and such
[16:58:29] <tyzoid> sure
[16:58:33] <tyzoid> whenever you're free.
[16:58:37] <rewbycraft> It's the weekend
[16:58:39] <rewbycraft> ;)
[16:59:17] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: Not sure if you saw, but there are now official vagrant images from Archlinux mainline
[16:59:22] <rewbycraft> I did yeah
[16:59:29] <rewbycraft> I don't really like vagrant myself
[16:59:48] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: Yeah, but they also have a packer script, which iirc has qcow2 export too
[16:59:56] <rewbycraft> Ah nice
[17:00:04] <rewbycraft> I dislike vagrant because ruby.
[17:00:14] <rewbycraft> Same reason I dislike puppet and chef
[17:00:42] <rewbycraft> tyzoid: If you will need something to do mass vm testing on, I can arrange something for you in a week
[17:01:06] <rewbycraft> I've got a "new" server with 4x Xeon X7350 (4 core) cpus and 128G of ram.
[17:01:39] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: Hmm, so it's not configured
[17:01:41] <tyzoid> https://github.com
[17:01:42] <phrik> Title: arch-boxes/vagrant.json at master · archlinux/arch-boxes · GitHub (at github.com)
[17:02:17] <rewbycraft> Hm
[17:02:19] <rewbycraft> Hm indeed
[17:02:22] <tyzoid> actually, I take that back
[17:02:35] <tyzoid> wait, nvm
[17:02:36] <rewbycraft> Packer should be able to handle it though
[17:02:37] <tyzoid> lol
[17:02:58] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: https://www.packer.io
[17:02:58] <phrik> Title: QEMU - Builders - Packer by HashiCorp (at www.packer.io)
[17:03:08] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: The format can be changed to qcow2
[17:03:09] <rewbycraft> I should be able to deploy vms with public ips on the new server next week ish
[17:03:17] <tyzoid> oh, nice.
[17:03:19] <rewbycraft> So if you wanna experiment with vms, I can arrange that
[17:03:36] <rewbycraft> (I've got an entire /24 of public ipv4 space now)
[17:03:42] <rewbycraft> (I'm using... 8 ips
[17:03:43] <tyzoid> That's awesome
[17:03:59] <tyzoid> Yeah, all of my vm/virtualbox stuff is for iso building
[17:04:05] <tyzoid> and I basically just destroy those once the iso is built
[17:04:06] <rewbycraft> Am probably gonna route a /28 to that vm setup
[17:04:26] <tyzoid> that's still a hefty block
[17:04:35] <tyzoid> how'd you come about this ip block?
[17:04:46] <rewbycraft> I know people
[17:05:03] <rewbycraft> https://bgp.he.net
[17:05:09] <rewbycraft> The advantages of running your own public network
[17:05:38] <rewbycraft> HE's BGP website is a bit broken at the moment
[17:05:42] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: are you affiliated with HostUS?
[17:05:43] <rewbycraft> So it's not showing all my interconnects
[17:05:49] <rewbycraft> Just a customer.
[17:06:00] <tyzoid> just a customer who happens to have 1/4 of their ip space?
[17:06:07] <rewbycraft> They have more blocks
[17:06:14] <rewbycraft> They rent out ipv4 space
[17:06:20] <rewbycraft> I got a good deal because contacts
[17:06:28] <tyzoid> ah, I see
[17:06:39] <rewbycraft> They have a lot of disparate blocks of space
[17:06:41] <rewbycraft> More than they need
[17:06:45] <rewbycraft> So they rent out spare ones
[17:06:57] <rewbycraft> As long as I pay my bill, this one's mine
[17:07:20] <rewbycraft> I mean, just look at this page: https://bgp.he.net
[17:07:24] <rewbycraft> Do they look short on ip space? ;)
[17:08:08] <tyzoid> yeah, no
[17:08:47] <tyzoid> how much is it, per month?
[17:08:54] <rewbycraft> Normaly 70 usd/mo
[17:08:57] <rewbycraft> I got a better deal though
[17:09:05] <rewbycraft> Can't disclose the exact number
[17:09:11] <tyzoid> yeah, that's fair
[17:09:19] <tyzoid> interesting
[17:09:22] <rewbycraft> It is an offical service they sell, https://my.hostus.us
[17:09:23] <phrik> Title: Shopping Cart - HostUS (at my.hostus.us)
[17:09:26] <rewbycraft> Just not a very advertised one
[17:09:46] <rewbycraft> Also, if you're in the EU region, don't get your ASN from them...
[17:09:51] <rewbycraft> Not that they're a bad company
[17:10:11] <rewbycraft> But this region ASNs don't have yearly fees on them. So EU specific LIRs tend not to charge monthly fees
[17:10:18] <rewbycraft> And just have it as a one-time fee
[17:10:41] <rewbycraft> So it's cheaper to use someone else
[17:11:02] <rewbycraft> That said, if you don't know exactly what you're doing, you probably shouldn't even be looking at the last 4 options
[17:11:13] <rewbycraft> (Being ASNs and ip space)
[17:11:33] <rewbycraft> Because I've got to deal with entirely too many people who don't know what they're doing and royally fuck up the public internet
[17:11:35] <rewbycraft> Or at least parts of it
[17:12:15] <rewbycraft> To the point where I've got a folder of memes of people who didn't just fuck up once... They fucked up repeatedly. (Or once, but in a funny way)
[17:14:13] <rewbycraft> (Not be call anyone here incompetent or anything... But people don't realise how much the functioning of the internet is based on trust that everyone who works at this level of it knows what they're doing and is competent. If that assumption is ever broken...)
[17:28:05] <tyzoid> rewbycraft: you should put those "broke public internet" stories in r/talesfromtechsupport
[17:28:34] <tyzoid> anyway, I'm out to see my gf. See you later
[17:29:16] <rewbycraft> Bye
[17:29:21] <rewbycraft> It's not techsupport
[17:29:31] <rewbycraft> It's literally one network admin being annoyed at another
[17:29:34] <rewbycraft> It's more /r/networking
[17:29:45] <rewbycraft> And, quite frankly, they're entirely too familiar with the subject already
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