#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2017-11-22

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[09:28:39] <mrkiko> Hey guys, I think there is a problem with the brltty package shipped in arch32
[09:29:28] <mrkiko> it seems it's not being built as it was before the transition: and so for example, bluetooth support is missing
[09:29:59] <mrkiko> so braille display users might have some troubles
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[10:02:10] <mrkiko> deep42thought: hello. Sorry to bother you. I found a package which is not compiled "correctly" - which is the brlty package, the one I use with my braille display
[10:02:15] <mrkiko> where may I report this?
[10:02:40] <mrkiko> In particular, the program seems to have been compiled without bluetooth libraries available, so bluetooth support was lost
[10:02:43] <deep42thought> mrkiko: there's a bugtracker at bugs.archlinux32.org - but I'm already looking into this
[10:03:42] <mrkiko> deep42thought: thank you very very much; did someone mention the problem to you already?
[10:03:55] <deep42thought> I read the logs :-)
[10:04:06] <mrkiko> :D thank you very much man
[10:06:14] <mrkiko> and btw, even GPM support seems lost for brltty, i.e.: no libgpm in ldd output, I don't use it currently
[10:07:15] <deep42thought> it's missing some files w.r.t. the x86_64 packages
[10:07:20] <deep42thought> I'm not sure, why
[10:12:31] <mrkiko> (w.r.t. stands for? :) );
[10:12:37] <deep42thought> with respect to
[10:12:42] <mrkiko> Could we look at the configure output on the buildmaster for this package?
[10:12:50] <mrkiko> deep42thought: thank you
[10:13:08] <deep42thought> I'm currently looking if any dependent package differs
[10:13:48] <mrkiko> if I can help, i'll do it ; I am glad....
[10:15:26] <deep42thought> mrkiko: the log is not kept if the build succeeded (only the namcap-log is kept), but I'm currently rebuilding it (and saving the log)
[10:17:26] <mrkiko> deep42thought: ...ok; thanks
[10:19:21] <deep42thought> hmm, the new build contains the files which have been missing before
[10:19:24] <deep42thought> strange
[10:20:09] <mrkiko> deep42thought: maybe it's something depending on the order in which you build the packages
[10:20:31] <deep42thought> probably
[10:20:47] <mrkiko> but that's probably true for other packages
[10:21:15] <deep42thought> actually, the buildmaster _should_ honor the order of dependencies
[10:21:49] <deep42thought> but on the other hand: _I_ wrote all the scipts, so they're definitely not bug-free :-)
[10:21:49] <mrkiko> ok, so a lot strange
[10:23:04] <mrkiko> but maybe the package does not state it's dependencies correctly?
[10:23:10] <mrkiko> looking at PKGBUILD, makedepends
[10:23:32] <mrkiko> I think that gpm icu tcl bluez-libs should be specified as makedepends and not only depends
[10:23:45] <deep42thought> depends implies makedepends
[10:24:08] <deep42thought> but maybe it depends on some python-icu package -- those were built after brltty
[10:24:27] <mrkiko> deep42thought: didn't know that, thank you;
[10:24:49] <mrkiko> deep42thought: bI don't know if ICU may influence bluetooth
[10:24:58] <mrkiko> or gpm
[10:25:02] <deep42thought> icu influences everything
[10:25:07] <deep42thought> it even broke pacman ...
[10:25:49] <mrkiko> deep42thought: :)
[10:28:42] <deep42thought> ok, I moved brltty to testing, can you have a look if it works - then I would move it to extra.
[10:33:54] <mrkiko> I'll look right now
[10:34:15] <deep42thought> ok, thanks :-)
[10:36:34] <mrkiko> the testing db doesn't seem updated; should I force a reinstall?
[10:36:43] <deep42thought> yes, the version is identical
[10:36:56] <deep42thought> I have not set up the sub-numbering for pkgrels yet
[10:37:07] <deep42thought> ... it's next on my todo
[10:39:57] <mrkiko> deep42thought: ok, I am reading this over blutooth :D
[10:40:02] <deep42thought> :-)
[10:41:23] <deep42thought> ok, done
[10:41:34] <deep42thought> mrkiko: thanks for reporting!
[10:41:43] <mrkiko> thank you very much
[10:41:59] <mrkiko> deep42thought: np, thanks for fixing :)
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[10:52:27] <abaumann> Hi there :-)
[10:52:31] <deep42thought> hi abaumann
[10:52:52] <abaumann> I tried to block firefox and python-sympy via email. Seems to be broken at the moment?
[10:53:01] <deep42thought> uhm, lemme check
[10:53:08] <abaumann> I also see some weird errors in the email log on the buildmaster..
[10:53:20] <deep42thought> easy fix
[10:53:29] <deep42thought> fetchmail was commented in crontab
[10:53:35] <abaumann> uh :-)
[10:53:42] <deep42thought> abaumann: mrkiko and I tried to set up testing for him
[10:53:55] <deep42thought> and I wanted to fetch the mails manually to see what's going on
[10:54:08] <deep42thought> apparently, I forgot to turn it on again at the end
[10:54:15] <abaumann> no problem. :-)
[10:54:46] <abaumann> Another topic: opera in the forums.. dropped 32-bit support upstream (@Opera)
[10:54:57] <abaumann> should we keep the last 32-bit version available or blacklist it?
[10:55:40] <deep42thought> I would rather blacklist than keeping an old package
[10:55:51] <deep42thought> btw: there is currently no auto-delete anyway
[10:56:09] <deep42thought> (otherwise I would have deleted our repositories already at least 3 times)
[10:56:38] <abaumann> Ok, blacklist, and maybe have an opera32old or similar in AUR?
[10:57:02] <deep42thought> maybe, but I'm not sure
[10:57:37] <abaumann> Another problem is, AUR people (like vivaldi) drop 32-bit support. There upstream (aka vivaldi) still supports 32-bit
[10:57:54] <abaumann> So in the worst case I would work vivaldi to a vivaldi32 in the AUR.
[10:58:13] <abaumann> s/work/fork/
[10:58:18] <deep42thought> nah
[10:58:35] <deep42thought> just write the maintainer, that the package still builds fine for i686 and they should include it
[10:58:58] <abaumann> none of our business maybe, too much effort. Unless I (aka myself) needs it. :-)
[10:59:24] <abaumann> did that.
[10:59:33] <abaumann> Also mentioned Archlinux32..
[10:59:46] <deep42thought> you can include arbitrary architectures in AUR - look at the arch array of dcron for example: https://aur.archlinux.org
[10:59:47] <phrik> Title: PKGBUILD - aur.git - AUR Package Repositories (at aur.archlinux.org)
[11:00:08] <abaumann> On the other hand. ARM packages from the AUR are also missing an arch entry, so..
[11:00:15] <deep42thought> not all
[11:00:38] <deep42thought> you should not _expect_ maintainers to include all valid arches, but you can ask them anyway
[11:01:07] <abaumann> Seems not consistent: but I think, Archlinux would say x86_64 is all what's required, the rest is up to the maintainer of the AUR package.
[11:01:20] <deep42thought> right
[11:01:41] <abaumann> ok, all well then, have to work agan, thanks. :-)
[11:01:49] <deep42thought> have fun!
[11:02:00] <abaumann> big data.. I'll have..
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[13:48:07] <WarheadsSE> *sigh* makepkg -A or makechrootpkg -- -A ftw
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[14:09:53] <deep42thought> how can we tell phrik that factoid?
[14:10:54] <deep42thought> I like the idea of '!give n00b archdrop' or whatever
[14:11:28] <fsckd> Register with phrik and make it.
[14:11:52] <deep42thought> ok, I'll have a look into it
[14:12:09] <fsckd> archdrop is <reply> blah
[14:12:14] <deep42thought> I thought, it'd need some kind of authorization from you
[14:12:21] <fsckd> Trust will make the factoid.
[14:12:29] <fsckd> That*
[14:12:46] <fsckd> I have no special powers. :)
[14:37:10] <tyz> deep42thought: which factoid?
[14:38:41] <deep42thought> !give tyz archdrop
[14:38:42] <phrik> tyz: Either insert 'i686' manually in 'arch=()' or run 'makepkg -A' to ignore the 'arch' array. See https://www.archlinux.org
[14:38:53] <tyz> nice
[14:43:45] <WarheadsSE> That's honestly how we build ALARM packages that require no modifications
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[14:52:19] <mrkiko> deep42thought: sorry, didn't read your message in time. When I wrote "Reading this from bluetooth" - I was already running the new brltty package. Sorry I wasn't precise. thank you again
[14:53:40] <tyz> :)
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[16:36:43] <lukeshu> 1. ghc-mod needs rebuilt
[16:37:15] <lukeshu> 2. m17n-lib needs rebuilt for icu 60
[16:37:24] <lukeshu> I have opend bugs for both of those.
[16:47:52] <tyz> sweet, thanks
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[17:52:09] <abaumann> https://bbs.archlinux32.org hope I answered this correctly in the name of the Archlinux32 team. :-)
[17:52:11] <phrik> Title: community/opensc planned building schedule / Creating/Maintaining Packages / Arch Linux 32 Forums (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[17:53:27] <abaumann> Basically, we do not provide newer versions of packages. We stick to the release cycle of Archlinux, and hence upstream.
[17:53:50] <abaumann> For this there is AUR and the git versions of packages.
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[18:06:58] <cypa[m]> Hi
[18:07:48] <cypa[m]> got problem triing to transit to archlinux32 repos
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[18:08:18] <abaumann> Hi.
[18:08:26] <abaumann> Did you clean the pacman cache?
[18:08:33] <cypa[m]> Yes
[18:08:58] <cypa[m]> did 'pacman -Sc'
[18:09:23] <cypa[m]> before 'pacman -Syuu'
[18:09:26] <abaumann> Do you have a cache version of libsoxr in /var/cache/pacman/pkg?
[18:09:43] <abaumann> try to remove this one and do the update again.
[18:11:24] <cypa[m]> OK
[18:11:30] <abaumann> and?
[18:11:31] <cypa[m]> btw, 1) libx264 2) libx264-10bit
[18:11:40] <cypa[m]> what is this mean?
[18:11:57] <abaumann> good question :-)
[18:12:04] <abaumann> I have to look myself..
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[18:12:46] <cypa[m]> oops ... again
[18:12:49] <cypa[m]> ошибка: libsoxr: signature from "Anatol Pomozov <anatol.pomozov@gmail.com>" is unknown trust
[18:12:50] <cypa[m]> :: Файл /var/cache/pacman/pkg/libsoxr-0.1.2-1-i686.pkg.tar.xz поврежден (неверный или поврежденный пакет(PGP-подпись)).
[18:12:50] <cypa[m]> Хотите его удалить? [Y/n]
[18:13:03] <abaumann> https://www.reddit.com
[18:13:05] <phrik> Title: libx264 vs libx264-10bit : archlinux (at www.reddit.com)
[18:13:08] <cypa[m]> Y or n leads to bail out
[18:13:18] <abaumann> mmh, so have to check libsoxr is maybe signed with the wrong sign key?
[18:14:07] <cypa[m]> ok
[18:14:18] <cypa[m]> libx264 is video
[18:14:22] <cypa[m]> OK
[18:14:44] <cypa[m]> I'll try to delere libsoxr for now
[18:15:12] <abaumann> yep. do that. I try to install libsoxr myself to sign what the problem is..
[18:18:20] <cypa[m]> $ pacman --query libsoxr
[18:18:20] <cypa[m]> error: package 'libsoxr'
[18:18:21] <cypa[m]> was not found
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[18:20:12] <cypa[m]> it is not installed
[18:20:26] <tyz> !package libsoxr
[18:20:26] <phrik> https://www.archlinux.org
[18:21:11] <tyz> Looks like it's packaged upstream, since that's not one of our archlinux32 signatures
[18:21:23] <tyz> as for why the key is unknown trust, I'm not sur
[18:21:25] <tyz> sure*
[18:21:50] <tyz> cypa[m]: what does `pacman -Qs keyring` give you?
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[18:23:48] <abaumann> that's quite an on archlinux-keyring
[18:24:15] <cypa[m]> sec
[18:24:15] <brtln> cypa: can you show your pacman.conf and mirrorlist?
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[18:24:57] <cypa[m]> minute
[18:25:18] <brtln> yeah, there you go
[18:25:22] <brtln> you need to replace it
[18:25:26] <abaumann> (y)
[18:25:33] * cypa[m] posted a file: pacman.conf (3KB) <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/KeJIFstzaGRCDLEROwLudLqJ>
[18:25:59] <cypa[m]> I've did a few times already, presses Y there
[18:26:03] <cypa[m]> no luck
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[18:26:37] <cypa[m]> I've did a few times already, pressed Y there
[18:26:54] <brtln> and?
[18:26:56] <brtln> what happened?
[18:27:22] <cypa[m]> same error with Anatol Pomozov signature
[18:27:59] <brtln> pacman -Scc --noconfirm
[18:28:02] <brtln> then do pacman -S archlinux32-keyring
[18:28:49] <brtln> and finally try -Suu
[18:29:34] <brtln> actually, -Syyuu
[18:29:44] <brtln> just to make sure
[18:30:13] <cypa[m]> same
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[18:30:55] <brtln> "same", as in, "I did all the steps you told me but I still have this error"?
[18:31:25] <cypa[m]> indeed, sir
[18:31:31] <cypa[m]> "I did all the steps you told me but I still have this error"
[18:31:49] <abaumann> mmh. the key would be part of archlinux-keyring and not archlinux32-keyring. Is this one also up to date?
[18:32:21] <brtln> abaumann: do you have this package on your infra?
[18:32:32] <abaumann> yep. both in stable and testing.
[18:33:01] <brtln> right, I'm stupid
[18:33:02] <abaumann> I think pulseaudio needs it (along other packages)
[18:33:03] <brtln> cypa: try -Scc
[18:33:04] <brtln> confirm all removals
[18:34:16] <cypa[m]> I did 'pacman -Scc --noconfirm' already
[18:34:26] <cypa[m]> no luck
[18:34:59] <abaumann> What is the output of 'pacman -Q | grep keyring' noq?
[18:35:09] <abaumann> s/noq/now/
[18:35:25] <cypa[m]> $ pacman -Q | grep keyring
[18:35:26] <cypa[m]> archlinux-keyring 20170611-1
[18:35:26] <cypa[m]> archlinux32-keyring-transition 20170628-1
[18:35:38] <abaumann> Must be archlinux-keyring 20171020-1 and archlinux32-keyring 20171113-2
[18:36:40] <abaumann> Easiest is to set SigLevel=Never in /etc/pacman.conf, do a pacman -S archlinux-keyring archlinux32-keyring, reenable SigLevel = Optional DatabaseOptional
[18:36:40] <cypa[m]> I've installed transition as it sited on archlinux32.org
[18:37:05] <abaumann> It can be your keys are way older, so you cannot update the keyrings..
[18:37:22] <abaumann> .. and you end in a loop. :-)
[18:40:05] <cypa[m]> Yap, this nettop was online a few months ago last time
[18:40:23] <abaumann> :-)
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[18:40:43] <cypa[m]> seems like success
[18:41:11] <brtln> cypa: without --confirm
[18:41:14] <cypa[m]> btw, no SigLevel= editing was nessesary
[18:41:28] <cypa[m]> without
[18:41:36] <abaumann> Yeah. I remember some trouble I had on an old machine, too.
[18:41:56] <cypa[m]> transition update is on the way now
[18:41:56] <abaumann> Don't forget to set SigLevel back to normal afterwards.
[18:43:09] <cypa[m]> I did not edit pacman.conf!!!
[18:43:29] <abaumann> Oh! :-)
[18:43:29] <abaumann> The better..
[18:44:10] <cypa[m]> 'pacman -S archlinux-keyring archlinux32-keyring' was totally enough
[18:44:23] <cypa[m]> thanks guys
[18:44:26] <abaumann> oh. good.
[18:44:32] <abaumann> no problem.
[18:44:35] <abaumann> happy about every user. :-)
[18:44:55] <cypa[m]> btw, how many users for now?
[18:45:10] <abaumann> *shrug*, who knows..
[18:45:24] <abaumann> ..hard to find out.
[18:45:27] <cypa[m]> any repo stats?
[18:45:44] <abaumann> me == wrong guy. :-)
[18:45:47] <tyz> I had some on my old server. I didn't migrate the analytics software yet.
[18:45:55] <abaumann> I don't run a mirror or such..
[18:46:24] <cypa[m]> btw, http://my-netdata.io is good monitor
[18:46:25] <phrik> Title: NetData: Get control of your Linux Servers. Simple. Effective. Awesome. (at my-netdata.io)
[18:47:18] <cypa[m]> reboot now ...
[18:47:29] <abaumann> *crossing fingers*
[18:50:59] <abaumann> deep42thought: there are libreoffice-still and m17n-lib (see forum) coraking about missing icu.59
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[18:55:25] <cypa[m]> success, I'm back
[18:55:31] <cypa[m]> firefox quantum ... cool
[18:55:43] <abaumann> :-)
[18:56:42] <tyz> :)
[19:50:29] <deep42thought> rescheduled ghc-mod m17n-lib and libreoffice-still
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[20:18:13] <deep42thought> lukeshu: ghc-mod vanished upstream, I removed it, too
[20:25:12] <lukeshu> huh, ok
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[21:53:55] <deep42thought> oh, the build of libreoffice-still is currently broken, so there was no point in rescheduling it :-/
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