#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2018-01-06

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[04:49:30] <mfwitten> Howdy fellow 32-bitters
[04:50:56] <mfwitten> On this page (https://archlinux32.org/download/), it would seem that the PGP signatures need to be updated, and probably the hashes, too; for instance, the signature file for the dual boot ISO is now `https://mirror.archlinux32.org/archisos/archlinux-2018.01.01-dual.iso.sig'.
[04:50:57] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux 32 (at archlinux32.org)
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[08:29:54] <deep42thought> mfwitten: I fixed it, the website should pull it any time soon, now
[08:30:43] <deep42thought> dopsi: you can/should run update-website from guthub.com/archlinux32/releng - this does most of the stuff (I think, it even updates the magnet links if you ask it to)
[09:49:42] <buildmaster> haskell-gauge is broken (says buildknecht).
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[10:05:03] <deep42thought> abaumann: It looks like I managed to f* up archlinux32-keyring
[10:05:16] <deep42thought> but unfortunately I don't have time right now to look into this
[10:05:29] <deep42thought> maybe you (or someone else) can have a look
[10:06:15] <deep42thought> https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[10:06:17] <phrik> Title: Can't update system due to allegedly bad PGP sigs / Pacman / Pacman Upgrades / Arch Linux 32 Forums (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
[10:13:20] <abaumann> Is the keyring sane? Because then people just have to update that one separately first.
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[11:20:35] <deep42thought> I thought so, but I'm not sure (anymore)
[11:21:07] <deep42thought> Polichronucci: you got my mail?
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[11:32:25] <abaumann> deep42thought: I just updated my machines and had no problems.
[11:37:01] <deep42thought> ok, so I guess, the keyring is fine
[11:37:13] <deep42thought> But I have ssen keys vanishing from pgp.mit.edu
[11:37:34] <deep42thought> so it might be, that they've gone missing there
[11:38:14] <abaumann> ah, that would be another dimension to the problem.
[11:39:09] <abaumann> haskell-hslua by the way is completly unpredicable, somtimes tests go in endless loops, sometimes they pass with C API test failures.
[11:39:19] <abaumann> I start to wonder, whether this worked in the past at all..
[11:42:13] <deep42thought> does upstream know?
[11:46:29] <abaumann> I don't know. I played a little bit with the stack-protector and relro, but the package behaves illogically.
[11:46:51] <abaumann> I suspected first some security things, as virtual machines (like lua) are quite delicate if it comes to those things
[11:49:49] <deep42thought> lua is a virtual machine? I thought it was a programming language :-/
[11:51:43] <abaumann> it is a language but uses a vm to execute bytecode as java does, also it has a luajit performance booster.
[11:51:51] <abaumann> lua's vm is quite fast actually
[11:52:56] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[11:56:19] <deep42thought> abaumann: There is a self-built haskell-hslua in staging, currently
[11:56:28] <deep42thought> so I guess, it worked at least once
[11:56:41] <abaumann> mmh. that's the one from december
[11:58:24] <deep42thought> btw: all keys seem to be available from pgp.mit.edu
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[14:00:54] <buildmaster> linux-lts is broken (says buildknecht).
[14:09:43] <deep42thought> I'll look into this
[14:19:55] <deep42thought> "+CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=y" ... I guess, I'll guide this security update straight through to [core], once it's built
[14:22:20] <deep42thought> hmm, "make oldconfig" just deletes that line
[14:22:29] <deep42thought> is this feature not available on i686?
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[14:48:21] <abaumann> PTI, meltdown and spectre.
[14:48:45] <deep42thought> I know (I read xkcd)
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[14:49:04] <deep42thought> but the question is, why "make oldconfig" removes the line from the .config, which I put there
[14:49:20] <abaumann> because the patch is for 64-bit only?
[14:50:24] <deep42thought> might be, I'll have a look
[14:52:18] <abaumann> though I thought even Pentiums potentially have this bug..
[14:53:39] <deep42thought> "Depends on: X86_64 [=n] && SMP [=y]"
[14:53:48] <deep42thought> ok, so it's not available for us :-/
[14:54:11] <abaumann> on 32-bit syscalls happen via software interrupts
[14:56:04] <abaumann> on 64-bit the systemcall is a jump into kernel land from the user process..
[14:56:45] <abaumann> or the patch happens later for 32-bit because 64-bit is more important right now.
[14:57:17] <deep42thought> might be true, too
[14:57:30] <abaumann> a syscall on 64-bit
[14:57:40] <abaumann> I'm by no means a kernel developer. :-)
[14:57:47] <deep42thought> :-)
[14:58:05] <abaumann> but I would bet that every CPU doing some sort of paging and speculative execution of code should be affected.
[15:01:21] <abaumann> cat /proc/cpuinfo | greu bugs -> cpu_insecure :-)
[15:01:22] <abaumann> nice.
[15:01:54] <deep42thought> :-D
[15:02:14] <abaumann> they should have called it 'features: side-channel'
[15:02:29] <deep42thought> lol
[15:14:09] <deep42thought> !grab abaumann
[15:14:10] <phrik> deep42thought: Tada!
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[15:20:00] <abaumann> ?
[15:20:29] <deep42thought> !quote abaumann
[15:20:30] <phrik> deep42thought: <abaumann> they should have called it 'features: side-channel'
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[16:33:12] <buildmaster> haskell-hslua is broken (says buildknecht2).
[16:34:00] <deep42thought> I finally aborted that job - and blocked it, so it does not block the build slave(s)
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[18:14:14] <abaumann> deep42thought: haskell-hslua, thanks for blocking, must investigate why it behaves like that..
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[18:38:21] <buildmaster> biber is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[20:48:44] <deep42thought> The safety net is kicking in: "There are 7897 > 1000 packages on the deletion-list. This does not seem right."
[20:48:57] <deep42thought> :-)
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[21:59:21] <MrQueeba> so, i3-gaps is not in the archlinux32 repos yet? tried to run pacman to install it and it didnt find it
[22:00:25] <MrQueeba> ok
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[22:11:12] <deep42thought> MrQueeba: hmm, this looks like a mistake on our end
[22:13:10] <MrQueeba> i see
[22:14:07] <deep42thought> I'll have a look, what other packages might be missing
[22:15:23] <MrQueeba> also, are you guys going to update the firefox package to 57?
[22:15:48] <deep42thought> we did
[22:15:49] <deep42thought> :-)
[22:16:10] <deep42thought> I just moved ~2k packages from testing to stable half an hour ago or so
[22:16:51] <deep42thought> oh, and i3-gaps _is_ there, now, too :-)
[22:16:55] <MrQueeba> oh
[22:16:56] <MrQueeba> thanks
[22:17:19] <deep42thought> we're a little slow on moving things from (community-)testing to community/core/extra
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[22:37:53] <buildmaster> valgrind is broken (says buildknecht2).
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