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[01:50:20] <MrBIOS> re
[01:51:05] <MrBIOS> abaumann_ ping
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[06:21:01] <buildmaster> pandoc is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[09:11:53] <buildmaster> dwarffortress is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[09:18:29] <Vollzornbrot> moin
[09:18:41] <buildmaster> nvidia-340xx-utils is broken (says buildknecht2).
[09:57:34] <deep42thought> Hi Vollzornbrot
[10:01:53] <Vollzornbrot> deep42thought: moin dude
[10:02:04] <deep42thought> did I hit the traffic limit already?
[10:22:39] <buildmaster> nvidia-340xx is broken (says buildknecht).
[10:23:03] <buildmaster> dwarffortress is broken (says buildknecht3).
[10:51:31] <buildmaster> dwarffortress is broken (says buildknecht3).
[11:11:09] <buildmaster> nvidia-340xx-lts is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[12:06:40] <Vollzornbrot> huch?
[12:07:22] <deep42thought> that was me
[12:07:54] <Vollzornbrot> ah okay, stop breaking the build machines xD
[12:08:02] <deep42thought> I was updating it :-)
[12:08:37] <Vollzornbrot> ah okay :D
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[17:06:23] <abaumann> deep42thought: https://bbs.archlinux32.org
[17:06:25] <phrik> Title: Too many coredumps after update. / Pacman / Pacman Upgrades / Arch Linux 32 Forums (at bbs.archlinux32.org)
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[17:35:38] <abaumann> deep42thought: I think, it's sufficient to only schedule all qt5-* modules for a rebuild..
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[17:55:35] <deep42thought> abaumann_: I'll reschedule '^qt5-.*$' - let's see if that helps :-)
[17:56:22] <buildmaster> I rescheduled qt5-3d qt5-base qt5-canvas3d qt5-charts qt5-connectivity qt5-datavis3d qt5-declarative qt5-doc qt5-examples qt5-feedback qt5-gamepad qt5-graphicaleffects qt5-imageformats qt5-location qt5-multimedia qt5-networkauth qt5-quickcontrols qt5-quickcontrols2 qt5-remoteobjects qt5-script qt5-scxml qt5-sensors qt5-serialbus qt5-serialport qt5-speech qt5-styleplugins qt5-svg qt5-systems qt5-tools qt5-translations qt5-virtual
[17:56:57] <deep42thought> hmm, there are some missing
[17:57:04] <deep42thought> but they're rescheduled
[17:57:33] <deep42thought> looks, like the line in irc got truncated
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[18:52:15] <{levi}> Is mplayer awaiting an update? Broken for my looking for an old version of libx264 at present (works on Archlinux64)
[18:52:24] <{levi}> s/my/me/
[18:53:01] <deep42thought> doe mplayer from testing work?
[18:53:05] <deep42thought> *does
[18:53:31] <{levi}> I could check; how do I install from testing?
[18:53:51] <deep42thought> activate [testing] and [community-testing] in /etc/pacman.conf
[18:54:07] <deep42thought> actually, [testing] might be sufficient for mplayer
[18:54:11] <deep42thought> but no guarantees :-)
[18:57:12] <{levi}> Hmm, I'm getting errors about my mirrorlist which I've not noticed before now
[18:57:46] <{levi}> But if that isn't a problem, it's saying mplayer is up to date
[18:58:04] <deep42thought> huh?
[18:58:08] <deep42thought> which version do you have?
[18:58:30] <{levi}> > warning: config file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, line 6: directive 'Server' in section 'options' not recognised.
[18:58:54] <{levi}> extra/mplayer 37998-2.0 [installed]
[18:58:57] <deep42thought> can you post your pacman.conf somewhere?
[18:59:08] <deep42thought> this is the one from [extra], not [testing]
[18:59:23] <{levi}> Right, doesn't seem to be reading the testing repo then
[18:59:44] <{levi}> What's a currently suggested pastebin equivalent I can use?
[18:59:53] <deep42thought> ptpb.pw
[18:59:55] <{levi}> ta
[19:01:14] <{levi}> https://ptpb.pw
[19:01:33] <deep42thought> this looks good, what about /etc/pacman.conf?
[19:01:54] <deep42thought> I guess, you still have the comment(s) in front of [testing] and [community-testing]
[19:02:25] <{levi}> Ah think I've got it. I hadn't uncommented the section headers when uncommenting the new repos
[19:02:36] <deep42thought> :-)
[19:04:18] <{levi}> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libcdio.so.18: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:04:26] <deep42thought> hmpf
[19:04:28] <{levi}> Different error, but it seems we're getting somewhere
[19:05:02] <{levi}> Maybe I should pull whatever ships libcdio from testing too though. I've currently got mplayer from testing on top of a non-testing base
[19:05:50] <{levi}> There is a newer libcdio in testing I think; I'll try that
[19:05:57] <deep42thought> yeah
[19:06:03] <deep42thought> you should do a "pacman -Syu"
[19:06:22] <{levi}> Okay, give me a moment then
[19:07:02] <{levi}> Okay, that's not too scary an upgrade
[19:07:21] <{levi}> Apart from the systemd upgrade; if that goes pearshaped I'm in trouble!
[19:07:45] <deep42thought> well, then just try the new libcdio
[19:08:13] <deep42thought> and if that works (it does contain the correct file!), then I can move mplayer and libcdio to [extra]
[19:08:35] <{levi}> Oh, I'm installing it anyway. Shouldn't break until I do a reboot anyway
[19:08:51] <deep42thought> on the other hand, I have the feeling, our [testing]/[community-testing] is more stable than [community]/[core]/[extra] :-)
[19:08:56] <{levi}> But newer mplayer and libcdio doesn't seem to work in isolation
[19:09:03] <{levi}> :)
[19:10:17] <{levi}> warning: asp: local (2-1) is newer than testing (0.0-1.0)
[19:10:20] <{levi}> If that matters
[19:10:26] <deep42thought> it's our asp32
[19:10:32] <deep42thought> you can downgrade
[19:10:50] <deep42thought> I just started at 0.0, so we can have some releases before we catch up with upstream :-)
[19:11:03] <{levi}> Oh okay, I guess I've been getting that for a while but just noticed it then
[19:11:06] <deep42thought> the archlinux32-part is not yet functional
[19:11:31] <{levi}> kk, not a package I've ever consciously installed
[19:11:32] <deep42thought> nope, it's the one in testing
[19:11:44] <deep42thought> the one in extra is still the official one
[19:11:56] <{levi}> Ah, should I worry?
[19:12:16] <{levi}> mplayer now works!
[19:12:28] <deep42thought> {levi}: no, nothing to worry
[19:12:51] <deep42thought> it's just, that I have not yet moved our asp from testing to replace the official one in extra
[19:12:57] <{levi}> Unfortunately it's something other than newer mplayer and newer libcdio that fixed it I think
[19:13:06] <{levi}> Ok
[19:15:24] <{levi}> https://ptpb.pw - the packages that got updated in the -Syu that fixed it
[19:15:36] <{levi}> bbl
[19:15:41] <deep42thought> cu
[19:16:29] <deep42thought> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize mplayer
[19:16:30] <buildmaster> The following packages are dependent on "mplayer", but cannot be stabilized:
[19:16:31] <buildmaster> ark.ea9e58d1eb295d1b42b168ee3c01f855194e3a12.963325cb6f6568dadf1965eb06dc6dad6e4f618d.extra (not tested yet for 5 days)
[19:16:31] <buildmaster> artikulate.cdc94a415b8082843123369aaf40bdbfe66d1cbe.963325cb6f6568dadf1965eb06dc6dad6e4f618d.extra (not tested yet for 5 days)
[19:16:31] <buildmaster> attica-qt5.0d60b00f21caf939fa03b096192bd510cb438f4a.57f720fc190e5e08dd98d342b1c01bb6eda67dfd.extra (not tested yet for 1 days)
[19:16:31] <buildmaster> baloo.0d60b00f21caf939fa03b096192bd510cb438f4a.57f720fc190e5e08dd98d342b1c01bb6eda67dfd.extra (not tested yet for 1 days)
[19:16:31] <buildmaster> ... (243 lines total)
[19:16:40] <deep42thought> ... nice ^^
[19:18:05] <deep42thought> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize mplayer
[19:18:06] <buildmaster> The following packages are dependent on "mplayer", but cannot be stabilized:
[19:18:06] <buildmaster> deepin-control-center.87056947b49b1bea58fc083c446d91953f567295.57f720fc190e5e08dd98d342b1c01bb6eda67dfd.community (not built yet)
[19:18:06] <buildmaster> deepin-daemon.d88d99f90a3b4cce0612d7fe675b3ef458902e15.470a01968a012d5157402651a646a0bb1f29fa0e.community (not built yet)
[19:18:06] <buildmaster> deepin-dock.0b801bb4a524dae1368e06526f008ff156f4cbff.ccad814460f4178af5e2e8a1565770189cde1afa.community (not built yet)
[19:18:06] <buildmaster> deepin-launcher.8f369d91b5dc9cd2c62c8271c49601c7929c5708.8ad297dc4a852ddc4ed7502a0fec083cb373b1e3.community (not built yet)
[19:18:07] <buildmaster> ... (52 lines total)
[19:47:22] <{levi}> Back. Anything you need me to test?
[19:50:44] <tyzoid> deep42thought: What language is the bm bot written in?
[19:50:48] <{levi}> Before installing testing libcdio: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libcdio.so.18: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:51:20] <{levi}> After installing libcdio and mplayer from testing, but no -Syu: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libcdio.so.16: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:52:16] <{levi}> After -Syu, works, but I have a libcdio.so.18, not 16.
[19:52:27] <{levi}> In my /usr/lib
[19:56:09] <{levi}> But I don't know what controls mplayer's loading of codecs, so I can't say why that changed when it did.
[19:56:57] <{levi}> Maybe the updated gst-plugins-bad fixed things? Guessing.
[19:59:47] <{levi}> On x64 archlinux, gst_plugins bad 1.12.4-2 seems to have gone mainline already
[20:00:03] <deep42thought> {levi}: the bot is in bash
[20:00:18] <{levi}> Replying to tyzoid I guess
[20:00:53] <deep42thought> ah sry
[20:00:54] <deep42thought> yes
[20:01:01] <{levi}> np
[20:01:04] <deep42thought> tyzoid: ^
[20:01:26] <deep42thought> {levi}: our testing is always already stable upstream
[20:01:46] <{levi}> Ok, that explains that observation then
[20:03:56] <{levi}> What next? Can we test just mplayer, libcdio and gst-plugins-bad? Or are you just going to push all of testing across?
[20:05:14] <deep42thought> I'll push all
[20:05:22] <deep42thought> but I need to wait for the qt5-* stuff
[20:05:39] <deep42thought> I'll ignore the deepin-* errors from buildmaster
[20:05:46] <deep42thought> these are broken for quite some time
[20:06:02] <deep42thought> and I'm really fed up with upstream in this regard :-)
[20:06:37] <{levi}> :) I did pick up gt5-base when I did that -Syu, but I think only keepassxc uses that in my setup.
[20:07:09] <{levi}> keepassxc still loads if that's a valid test
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[20:07:33] <deep42thought> the qt5 stuff is being rebuilt to mitigate a different error
[20:08:32] <{levi}> Ok, well, mplayer is working for me again, and nothing else seems to have broken yet, so I guess I'm happy for now.
[20:08:40] <deep42thought> :-)
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[20:11:14] <buildmaster> nvidia-340xx is broken (says nlopc43).
[20:11:56] <deep42thought> grml
[20:14:23] * deep42thought wonders where he got the wrong checksum of nvidia-340xx from
[20:17:40] <deep42thought> tyzoid: the irc bot is ii plus a shell script which periodically checks the "out" files
[20:18:12] <deep42thought> and runs "why-dont-you" on any line it finds with "why[- ]don'\?t[- ]you"
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[20:33:01] <buildmaster> qt5-sensors is broken (says rechenknecht).
[20:35:26] <deep42thought> hmm, rechenknecht seems broken :'-(
[20:36:37] <buildmaster> qt5-gamepad is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[20:39:00] <deep42thought> ... a reboot will fix everything :-)
[20:39:23] <buildmaster> qt5-speech is broken (says buildknecht).
[20:39:44] <buildmaster> simplescreenrecorder is broken (says buildknecht).
[20:39:53] <deep42thought> gnaa
[20:40:04] <buildmaster> qt5-styleplugins is broken (says buildknecht).
[20:40:21] <buildmaster> qt5-serialport is broken (says buildknecht).
[20:41:21] <deep42thought> it's like playing dominoes: if you pull the plug on the master mirror, the build master will fail and all build slaves pulling packages from the master mirror will also fail
[20:41:47] <deep42thought> and then of course, titus_livius will leave and rechenknecht is gone, too
[20:42:05] <deep42thought> and with a little luck, the build master goes insane
[20:42:17] <deep42thought> which will hopefully stop further annoying messages of failure
[20:42:53] * buildmaster goes insane.
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[20:43:21] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
[20:43:52] <buildmaster> qt5-script is broken (says buildknecht).
[20:59:06] <deep42thought> abaumann_: fyi: you can now configure a mirror-refresh command with "mirror_update_command" on your build slave which will be called before trying to build a package
[20:59:19] <deep42thought> this way, you can use a local package mirror and still be up-to-date
[21:00:05] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Could it be configured to use an external tier 1 mirror if the primary goes down?
[21:00:15] <tyzoid> I'd imagine that'd be more robust.
[21:00:38] <deep42thought> well, you can put anything into your mirrorlist32 as you like
[21:00:45] <deep42thought> so: yes
[21:01:15] <deep42thought> the point is, that I'll emit a lot of adrenaline anyway if the master mirror dies
[21:01:18] <tyzoid> Do you think it'd be helpful to have a shadow master of some sort? i.e. where you push down if you see any changes?
[21:01:28] <tyzoid> instead of poll and pull?
[21:01:56] <deep42thought> hmm
[21:02:18] <deep42thought> I think one mirror which updates every minute should be fine, too
[21:02:37] <deep42thought> ha, I got an idea :-)
[21:03:07] <tyzoid> deep42thought IIRC, mine does that.
[21:03:35] <deep42thought> vollzornbrot set up a resync-this-mirror php-document
[21:03:53] <deep42thought> so I can trigger a resync of his mirror whenever the buildmaster pushes anything onto the master mirror
[21:04:19] <tyzoid> nice.
[21:04:24] <tyzoid> I'm actually once per hour, atm
[21:04:36] <tyzoid> I can change that when I get home later
[21:06:36] <deep42thought> I'm currently using this to keep the mirror of his build slaves up to date
[21:06:50] <deep42thought> so before a package is being built, the resync is triggered
[21:08:59] <tyzoid> Perhaps it might be wise to use a separate build mirror?
[21:09:10] <deep42thought> not really
[21:09:24] <deep42thought> what's the advantage?
[21:09:29] <tyzoid> stability
[21:09:50] <deep42thought> well, then you just shift the problem to "the build mirror goes down"
[21:10:08] <tyzoid> yes, but that affects fewer things.
[21:10:08] <deep42thought> I'd rather pick the build mirror geographically close to the build slave
[21:10:21] <deep42thought> and then simply use the "update on demand" capability
[21:10:29] <deep42thought> to avoid lag
[21:32:50] <deep42thought> I'll look what can be moved, tomorrow
[21:32:57] <deep42thought> and go to bed now :-)
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[21:35:26] <abaumann> deep42thought: ah, mirror-refresh, very nice. will test.. :-)
[21:36:18] <tyzoid> hey abaumann: What's up? Been a while
[21:36:24] <abaumann> hey there.
[21:36:27] <abaumann> busy :-)
[21:36:34] <tyzoid> I can imagine.
[21:36:50] <abaumann> an xmas holidays.
[21:37:01] <tyzoid> Those are still going on?
[21:37:15] <abaumann> oeh.. sort of.. :-)
[21:37:25] <tyzoid> This is my third week back at work :P
[21:37:28] <abaumann> I had 3 weeks of just hacking away and relaxation..
[21:37:35] <tyzoid> ah
[21:37:37] <tyzoid> nice
[21:38:31] <tyzoid> !ping
[21:38:32] <phrik> pong
[21:39:11] <abaumann> buildmaster: why don't you stabilize virtualbox
[21:39:12] <buildmaster> "virtualbox" is not tested yet!
[21:39:16] <abaumann> ah. :-)
[21:42:32] <tyzoid> that's a good reason
[21:42:47] <tyzoid> kinda hard to test virtualbox inside virtualbox, though.
[21:42:52] <abaumann> actually, it's worth. exhausted memory again during gcc compilation.
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[21:45:22] <abaumann> ah, so, MrBIOS, now he left.
[21:45:33] <abaumann> We seem to live on different sides of the flat earth. ;-)
[21:45:51] <tyzoid> I think all three of us do :P
[21:46:17] <tyzoid> Would laugh if he was actually in australia
[21:46:26] <abaumann> :-)
[21:52:32] <abaumann> mmh. this whole memory exhaustion problem let's me consider to have build slaves running 64-bittish with -m32 and -march flags..
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[21:53:50] <tyzoid> abaumann: What if you built with -j1?
[21:55:33] <abaumann> no hope. -j1, increaing /tmp space, increasing swap
[21:55:44] <abaumann> the code is just too comples and the compiler draws to much memory.
[21:55:56] <abaumann> sadly. this is the future of software development.
[21:58:02] <abaumann> I have seen "running-as-root" straws today in the build slaves, this is also a sad truth that some packages need root rights to compile and/or test properly.
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[22:04:23] <tyzoid> abaumann: Does it compile with CC != gcc?
[22:04:30] <tyzoid> such as clang or TCC?
[22:06:38] <abaumann> oh. I didn't try. tcc is pure C, somewhat C99ish
[22:06:43] <abaumann> I doubt.
[22:06:47] <abaumann> clang, yes, maybe.
[22:07:09] <abaumann> but I don't like to mix compilations on the same distribution with two toolchains..
[22:07:42] <tyzoid> tcc could compile the entire linux kernel circa 2006ish
[22:07:51] <abaumann> testing the silly hypothesis now: "virtualbox builds if built as root"
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[23:35:16] <MrBIOS> hey folks, is there an arch linux32 preinstalled image anywhere? Something one can spin up in a VM?
[23:35:33] <guys> Does the install ISO not work?
[23:35:59] <guys> e.g. Arch Linux does provide VM images, but that is a recent thing.
[23:37:37] <tyzoid> MrBIOS: We do have archlinux32/archlinux32 vagrant available, but it's a bit old.
[23:38:05] <tyzoid> vagrant init archlinux32/archlinux32 && vagrant up
[23:38:07] <tyzoid> should do that
[23:38:07] <MrBIOS> guys: it doesn’t work on the device I want to test it on, no :)