#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2018-02-13

[00:02:39] <buildmaster> openfire is broken (says buildknecht3).
[00:33:26] <buildmaster> nvidia is broken (says buildknecht3).
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[01:19:35] <buildmaster> haskell-http-api-data is broken (says buildknecht3).
[01:54:48] <buildmaster> haskell-hasql-transaction is broken (says eurobuild3).
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[09:25:18] <HoloIRCUser> Hello
[09:25:21] <deep42thought> Hi
[09:27:41] <HoloIRCUser> Anybody Speak in Russian?
[09:31:44] <deep42thought> Не могу - извините.
[09:31:56] <deep42thought> Why not english?
[09:32:13] <deep42thought> Or maybe, there is a russian archlinux channel?
[09:32:21] <HoloIRCUser> А I have a problem. I Can't Install yaourt.
[09:32:38] <deep42thought> you should compile yaourt from the pkgbuild
[09:32:57] <deep42thought> I guess you're trying to install some binary package from somewhere (archlinuxfr?)
[09:35:41] <deep42thought> e.g.: you should build this: https://aur.archlinux.org with these instructions: https://wiki.archlinux.org
[09:35:45] <phrik> Title: AUR (en) - yaourt (at aur.archlinux.org)
[09:35:54] <HoloIRCUser> Sorry, I login in channel from mobile. I'm answer too long
[09:36:04] <deep42thought> ah
[09:36:23] <deep42thought> just search the wiki for aur
[09:36:42] <deep42thought> and then #4: "installing packages"
[09:36:49] <HoloIRCUser> Which console irc client I may Install?
[09:37:17] <deep42thought> I use irssi in console and pidgin in x, but It's reaally just a pick of choice
[09:39:52] <HoloIRCUser> Thanks. When I Install irssi I can talk you about my problem
[09:39:59] <deep42thought> ok
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[10:15:19] <sich> what's up?
[10:15:32] <sich> this is me, HoloIrcuser
[10:15:58] <sich> russian with some yaourt problem
[10:16:25] <sich> i'm finally install irssi
[10:16:54] <sich> so, i have a problem with makepkg
[10:17:50] <sich> i'm download package-query, but can't makepkg
[10:18:45] <buildmaster> git-annex is broken (says buildknecht3).
[10:19:33] <sich> i have answer from bash when i do makepkg -si: don't find 'strip' for cleaning objective files
[10:21:12] <sich> i'm just now install archlinux32
[10:22:39] <deep42thought> you need to install "base-devel"
[10:25:13] <sich> my pacman don't find automake-i686 in repositories
[10:25:49] <deep42thought> have you run 'pacman -Sy' before?
[10:25:58] <deep42thought> or even better: 'pacman -Syu'
[10:26:32] <deep42thought> on the other hand: what's the precise error message?
[10:27:18] <sich> yes, i'm update repos
[10:28:17] <deep42thought> what's the error you get?
[10:28:25] <deep42thought> !give sich ptpb
[10:28:26] <phrik> sich: “<command> 2>&1 | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw” OR “curl -F c=@path/to/a/file https://ptpb.pw” OR install community/pbpst
[10:29:36] <sich> what're that?
[10:29:45] <sich> sorry for my english
[10:30:26] <deep42thought> with this command, you can give me the full output of your pacman command with out cluttering the channel
[10:30:44] <deep42thought> np for the language - I can speak "russian english" ;-)
[10:31:12] <deep42thought> (had 4 years of russian in school, but didn't keep too much in my head of it)
[10:33:18] <deep42thought> so you need to run: 'pacman -S base-devel 2>&1 | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw'
[10:33:19] <phrik> Title: pb (at ptpb.pw)
[10:33:30] <sich> ok
[10:34:10] <sich> can you tell me how i can copy in buffer that?
[10:34:24] <sich> or i can't?
[10:34:38] <deep42thought> I think, you can't
[10:34:53] <deep42thought> if you're in a true terminal - e.g. not in a terminal emulator in x
[10:35:49] <sich> i just installed arch32 without xorg or any wm
[10:35:56] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[10:36:03] <deep42thought> then you can't
[10:36:08] <sich> ok
[10:36:19] <sich> sojust texted it
[10:36:44] <deep42thought> then I just need the link, which is printed :-)
[10:38:39] <sich> i did it
[10:39:07] <buildmaster> haskell-hakyll is broken (says buildknecht).
[10:41:42] <deep42thought> you mean you installed base-devel successfully?
[10:41:50] <sich> no
[10:42:00] <sich> automake don't install
[10:42:14] <deep42thought> so: what's the error?
[10:42:18] <sich> cause don't find it in repos
[10:42:24] <sich> 404
[10:42:41] <deep42thought> can you give the full line?
[10:43:38] <sich> i can do it in ptpb
[10:43:44] <deep42thought> yeah
[10:43:48] <deep42thought> that would be greatz
[10:43:51] <deep42thought> *great
[10:46:00] <sich> done
[10:47:03] <deep42thought> you need to give me the link, which the ptpb command prints
[10:47:34] <deep42thought> "url: ..."
[10:48:46] <sich> https://ptpb.pw
[10:48:53] <buildmaster> haskell-http-conduit is broken (says buildknecht3). - I rescheduled: haskell-asn1-encoding, haskell-asn1-types.
[10:48:53] <buildmaster> haskell-jose is broken (says buildknecht).
[10:49:21] <sich> "https://ptpb.pw/Cyq3"
[10:49:27] <deep42thought> thanks, I got it
[10:50:00] <deep42thought> ah, this is most probably my mistake
[10:50:03] <deep42thought> give me a second
[10:52:21] <buildmaster> haskell-pipes-http is broken (says buildknecht).
[10:53:00] <deep42thought> mirror.archlinux32.org should have it now, the others should catch it within the hour
[10:54:42] <sich> so, you say i may enter pacman -S automake now?
[10:54:48] <deep42thought> yes
[10:54:59] <deep42thought> better: pacman -S base-devel
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[10:57:35] <sich> oh, i have to add this mirror?
[10:57:45] <deep42thought> no, it's already there
[10:58:02] <deep42thought> it's just number 5 in your mirrorlist
[10:58:16] <deep42thought> so you'll get a few 404's, and then a succes on mirror.archlinux32.org
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[10:58:50] <buildmaster> haskell-retry is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:03:06] <buildmaster> haskell-tls is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:03:45] <sich> but the result is the same
[11:04:02] <deep42thought> ah, you need to run 'pacman -Sy' again
[11:04:05] <deep42thought> sry
[11:04:28] <sich> of cause
[11:05:04] <sich> sorry for my carelessness
[11:05:53] <buildmaster> haskell-tls-session-manager is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:06:26] <sich> don't work
[11:06:31] <deep42thought> :-/
[11:06:32] <sich> the same
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[11:07:07] <deep42thought> um
[11:07:17] <deep42thought> can you comment all mirrors except mirror.archlinux32.org?
[11:07:29] <deep42thought> maybe it pulls the package database (which is broken) from another one?
[11:07:53] <sich> i'll try it
[11:08:52] <buildmaster> haskell-warp-tls is broken (says buildknecht).
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[11:10:23] <sich> it's aliaaaave, it's aliiiiiive!!!!
[11:10:28] <deep42thought> :-D
[11:10:29] <sich> thanks for all
[11:10:38] <deep42thought> thanks for finding my mistake :-)
[11:11:24] <sich> continue my journey to awesome
[11:11:31] <buildmaster> haskell-x509 is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:12:05] * deep42thought wonders what's the matter with all that haskell-* stuff
[11:12:19] <sich> now can i uncomment other mirrors or it does not make sense
[11:12:21] <sich> ?
[11:12:40] <deep42thought> as I said: they should catch up within the hour
[11:12:47] <deep42thought> but for now, I'd leave it as it is
[11:14:21] <buildmaster> haskell-x509-store is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:17:05] <buildmaster> haskell-x509-system is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:19:34] <sich> i got it, thanks
[11:19:42] <buildmaster> haskell-x509-validation is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:19:42] <deep42thought> np
[11:25:44] <buildmaster> haskell-yesod-auth is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:26:12] <deep42thought> the buildmaster has gone crazy (thanks to me)
[11:29:55] <buildmaster> hledger-api is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:36:19] <buildmaster> hledger-web is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:40:23] <buildmaster> hoogle is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:44:21] <buildmaster> hopenpgp-tools is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:48:34] <deep42thought> I found the issue :-)
[11:51:46] <sich> you killed buildmaster?
[11:52:18] <deep42thought> no, I just broke it in a way, that it did not insert the dependencies in the database
[11:52:27] <deep42thought> and thus just builds packages in arbitrary order
[11:52:33] <deep42thought> ... which is not a good idea :-/
[11:55:04] <buildmaster> pandoc is broken (says buildknecht).
[11:59:01] <buildmaster> pandoc-citeproc is broken (says buildknecht).
[12:03:32] <buildmaster> pandoc-crossref is broken (says buildknecht).
[12:09:04] <buildmaster> postgrest is broken (says buildknecht).
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[13:53:32] <buildmaster> stack is broken (says buildknecht).
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[15:48:16] <deep42thought> do you know this feeling, when you find so many bugs, that you wonder how this piece of software could have ever worked before?
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[17:23:42] <deep42thought> Hi abaumann
[17:23:51] <abaumann> oh. that was fast. :-)
[17:23:52] <abaumann> hi.
[17:24:07] <deep42thought> I, just sat down ;-)
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[17:30:23] <abaumann> How is your database?
[17:30:35] <deep42thought> I *think* I have all the dependencies in it now
[17:30:47] <deep42thought> which _should_ allow me to activate the blacklisting again
[17:30:59] <deep42thought> but I didn't build up the courage to actually try it, yet
[17:31:30] <deep42thought> hmm, it looks like it's still missing some dependencies :-/
[17:31:32] <deep42thought> https://buildmaster.archlinux32.org
[17:31:33] <phrik> Title: sanity of the buildmaster's mysql database (at buildmaster.archlinux32.org)
[17:31:58] <buildmaster> python-iwlib is broken (says eurobuild3).
[17:32:50] <abaumann> it's a mixture of plugins which are on the blacklist (skia), which should be on the blacklist (opera, opera-ffmpeg-codecs) and some random other things..
[17:33:13] <deep42thought> the first part is the deletion list
[17:33:17] <deep42thought> which is not yet done
[17:33:21] <deep42thought> (blacklisting is deactivated)
[17:33:31] <deep42thought> the lowest part is what worries me
[17:33:44] <deep42thought> "build-dependencies.{mysql,file}"
[17:34:01] <abaumann> granted: sqlite and tar. :-)
[17:36:36] <deep42thought> there are 307 packages which do not depend on base or base-devel :-/
[17:49:18] <deep42thought> the diff for the loops is also somewhat fuzzy: the database has a much better definition of "dependency loops" than the state-files
[17:50:03] <deep42thought> e.g. the state files consider it a loop if gcc belongs to group base-devel and depends on base-devel.
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[18:03:40] <Alina-malina> so what to do?
[18:04:12] <deep42thought> Alina-malina: you're the one who just wrote me an email in Portuguese?
[18:04:44] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Did the email forwarding issue ever get resolved, btw?
[18:04:48] <Alina-malina> do i look like someone that just wrote you an email on portuguese deepfortytwothoughts?
[18:05:02] <Alina-malina> i am thinking if i will have issues with transition or not
[18:05:11] <deep42thought> ok, sry
[18:05:25] <deep42thought> deep42thought: I can't remember an issue
[18:05:29] <deep42thought> so I'd say: yes :-)
[18:05:32] <Alina-malina> people from archlinux suggesting me to do a transition, but i dont know what to do....
[18:05:53] <deep42thought> Alina-malina: https://archlinux32.org
[18:05:55] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux 32 (at archlinux32.org)
[18:06:01] <deep42thought> see under "Transition from the Official Repositories"
[18:06:36] <Alina-malina> deep42thought, i want to show you the list of programs that i am using with my arch, and i dont want to have issues after transitioning, plus metasploit which i did not install yet
[18:07:19] <tyzoid> Any programs you have that we have removed will remain. I suggest performing a back-up before doing the migration if you have concerns.
[18:07:53] <deep42thought> ^
[18:08:06] <deep42thought> plus you can always downgrade after the upgrade
[18:08:07] <Alina-malina> can you look the list tzoid?
[18:08:14] <Alina-malina> so backup
[18:08:20] <Alina-malina> hmmm i never did that before
[18:08:24] <Alina-malina> on this distro
[18:08:28] <Alina-malina> i dont know even how to do that
[18:08:56] <deep42thought> pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ol-package-0.0-0-i686.pkg.tar.xz
[18:09:13] <Alina-malina> what this does?
[18:09:27] <deep42thought> installs "ol-package" in version 0.0-0 from your package cache
[18:09:31] <deep42thought> e.g.: downgrade it
[18:09:45] <tyzoid> https://wiki.archlinux.org in general has some tips.
[18:09:46] <phrik> Title: System backup - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[18:09:49] <deep42thought> if something goes wrong during/after the upgrade
[18:09:49] <Alina-malina> ummm so what you suggest?
[18:09:51] <Alina-malina> oh
[18:10:29] <tyzoid> Alina-malina: What deep42thought is saying is if you run into issues, you can also restore an old version of a package out of your pacman cache
[18:10:45] <tyzoid> In general, full system backups are good to have, especially before doing large transitions
[18:10:51] <tyzoid> which I would recommend if you haven't taken one before
[18:10:52] <deep42thought> sometimes that's better than replaying _everything_
[18:11:08] <Alina-malina> eh
[18:11:10] <deep42thought> I meant partial downgrade is sometimes better
[18:11:16] <deep42thought> but you _should_ backup anyway
[18:12:49] <deep42thought> Alina-malina: as a rule of thumb: If a package is available on x86_64 and not on i686 anymore, there are good reasons for it and you should probably not use it anymore
[18:13:13] <deep42thought> but ocassionally we're just too stupid to get it compile on i686, too ... *cough*dmd*cough*
[18:13:24] <abaumann> :-)
[18:14:35] <tyzoid> Or just not enough manpower to properly research how to get it to function *cough*dmd*cough*
[18:16:11] <abaumann> libgcrypt11: again a package I cannot find upstream and which is idling in the buildmaster..
[18:16:28] <deep42thought> umm
[18:16:31] <deep42thought> what?
[18:16:41] <abaumann> https://www.archlinux.org
[18:16:41] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux - Package Search (at www.archlinux.org)
[18:16:45] <abaumann> shows nothing.
[18:16:52] <deep42thought> it's not available upstream
[18:16:59] <abaumann> but there is a libgcrypt11 in trunk gitsvn..
[18:17:06] <deep42thought> doesn't matter
[18:17:13] <deep42thought> should not be scheduled, still
[18:17:18] <abaumann> ah.
[18:17:20] <buildmaster> dgen-sdl is broken (says buildknecht2).
[18:17:52] <deep42thought> pushed it to the deletion-list
[18:18:04] <abaumann> thanks.
[18:18:17] <deep42thought> probably some fallout of my dependency mangling
[18:19:55] <deep42thought> abaumann: we only look at $pkgbase/repos/{community,extra,multilib,core}-{any,x86_64}/
[18:20:31] <abaumann> aha. ok.
[18:23:28] <tyzoid> deep42thought: I can't remember who was running the mail relay, but did they ever get back to you on my mail issue?
[18:23:44] <deep42thought> tyzoid: I really cannot remember
[18:23:49] <deep42thought> so I guess: no
[18:24:04] <tyzoid> I don't recall hearing anything either.
[18:24:18] <deep42thought> Polichronucci runs the mail server on archlinux32.org
[18:25:02] <tyzoid> That's right. I haven't heard anything from him in a while
[18:31:00] <abaumann> do we still have mpfr.4 in the build-support? because step fails with /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/7.3.0/../../../libqalculate.so: undefined reference to `mpfr_div'
[18:31:28] <deep42thought> I think, we do not
[18:31:42] <deep42thought> there's sbcl, rust, libglvnd, erlang
[18:31:52] <abaumann> so. libqalculate.so maybe is linked against the old mpfr
[18:31:56] <abaumann> checking..
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[18:33:08] <wagner> ola sou do brasil
[18:33:16] <deep42thought> Hi
[18:33:16] <wagner> alguem pode me ajudar
[18:33:21] <deep42thought> english please
[18:33:32] <abaumann> aeh.. German, French, Italian, English (Romansh?) yes.. :-)
[18:33:34] <tyzoid> or german
[18:33:35] <tyzoid> lol
[18:33:36] <abaumann> No Spanish.
[18:33:44] <deep42thought> it's portuguese
[18:33:44] <abaumann> No Portuguese.
[18:33:45] <tyzoid> Well, that was portuguese
[18:33:48] <abaumann> yes. sorry.
[18:33:50] <tyzoid> lol
[18:34:01] <deep42thought> wagner: you got my email?
[18:34:01] <tyzoid> Puedo hablar espanol un poco
[18:34:08] <tyzoid> (I can speak spanish a bit)
[18:34:16] <abaumann> wagner: go ahead, maybe we understand enough to help..
[18:34:16] <deep42thought> I canread spanish a little ;-)
[18:34:29] <abaumann> oh. silly me. :-)
[18:34:35] <wagner> ok
[18:34:45] <wagner> sorry
[18:37:01] <wagner> Well that the support of the archlinux team, could have someone who speaks Portuguese, this becomes necessary because the distribution is very used here in Brazil
[18:37:02] <deep42thought> wagner: did you run "pacman -S archlinux32-keyring-transition"?
[18:37:37] <deep42thought> we're only a few persons
[18:37:38] <abaumann> Google Translate is a good option. :-)
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[18:38:01] <deep42thought> so far no one fluent in portuguese AFAIK
[18:38:01] <wagner> yes
[18:38:13] <wagner> yes
[18:38:40] <abaumann> I had the impression parabola had quite some Spanish and Portuegese speaking guys?
[18:38:54] <abaumann> maybe there is somebody there?
[18:40:23] <wagner> but my problem is accomplished with the archlinux-keyring
[18:40:29] <tyzoid> great!
[18:40:39] <abaumann> ah. cool. :-)
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[18:40:47] <tyzoid> lol
[18:40:57] <guys> Have any parabola people volunteered to help with archlinux32, beyond merely reusing it as a package source?
[18:40:58] <tyzoid> Parabola gets mentioned once, and bill-auger appears
[18:41:24] <abaumann> guys: well, we are reusing the Archlinux package sources. :-)
[18:41:35] <guys> No, that is source package sources :p
[18:41:44] <abaumann> even that would be helpfull just to increase the user bases of Archlinux-based distros in general.
[18:41:47] <abaumann> ah. :-)
[18:41:50] <tyzoid> guys: bill-auger has helped on the forums some
[18:41:53] <guys> I'm referring to importing *.pkg.tar.xz
[18:41:55] <guys> oh, cool
[18:42:23] <abaumann> tyzoid: you see ;-)
[18:43:00] <wagner> error archlinux-keyring signature from erick eckner
[18:43:16] <tyzoid> wagner: pacman -Sy archlinux32-keyring-transition
[18:45:27] <wagner> thanks, I'll try the procedure and if it does not work I'll return here so that you can help me, hug
[18:45:42] <abaumann> ldd /usr/lib/libqalculate.so.14.0.0 | grep mpfr
[18:45:42] <abaumann> libmpfr.so.4 => not found
[18:45:51] <deep42thought> ok
[18:45:53] <abaumann> libqalculate
[18:45:56] <deep42thought> so we should reschedule
[18:46:07] <abaumann> should I try via email?
[18:46:14] <deep42thought> yes, please
[18:46:22] <abaumann> so we can test that.. :-)
[18:46:24] <deep42thought> I want to see that this is not (yet) broken :-)
[18:47:09] <abaumann> ok. sent.
[18:47:39] <wagner> if you want to contact me, my email: wagnercamara34@gmail.com
[18:48:56] <deep42thought> "Tue Feb 13 17:48:24 UTC 2018: Successfully (re)scheduled 1 packages."
[18:48:59] <deep42thought> looks good :-)
[18:49:04] <abaumann> cool :-)
[18:49:31] <deep42thought> and it also appeared on the build-list
[18:49:33] <deep42thought> whoah
[18:51:47] <abaumann> libqalculate landed on my build slave.. perfect.
[18:51:53] <deep42thought> :-D
[18:52:17] <deep42thought> btw: I changed the RAM in my archlinux32 box and so far it works great
[18:52:18] <tyzoid> wow, something works as expected!
[18:52:21] <tyzoid> How unexpected!
[18:52:27] <tyzoid> loljk, good work deep42thought
[18:52:36] <abaumann> ah: that's what caused you crashes?
[18:52:40] <abaumann> bad RAM?
[18:52:43] <deep42thought> looks so
[18:52:45] <abaumann> *your
[18:53:28] <deep42thought> I'm currently running boinc, burnMMX, "find / -exec cat {} \; > /dev/null" and some "ncat > /dev/null" in parallel to see if I can get it to crash
[18:54:06] <deep42thought> abaumann: both: It caused my crashes and it caused me crashes ;-)
[18:54:20] <abaumann> :-)
[18:54:47] <abaumann> my keyboard gets soaky: now and then it swallows a character.. I washed it recently..
[18:55:14] <abaumann> ..pre-owner is a heavy smoker.. :-)
[18:55:37] <tyzoid> Sounds awful
[18:57:28] <abaumann> Well. It works again.. most of the times.. :-)
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[18:58:08] <deep42thought> afk, dinner
[18:58:16] <abaumann> cu. enjoy.
[19:01:20] <deep42thought> I spoke too soon - it crashed again :-(
[19:02:59] <tyzoid> :(
[19:03:10] <deep42thought> let's try the next RAM ...
[19:03:24] <tyzoid> deep42thought: Why not just memtest86+?
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[19:32:50] <deep42thought> tyzoid: IIRC, I already did that when I put in the old RAM
[19:33:03] <tyzoid> odd
[19:36:54] <buildmaster> python-cherrypy is broken (says buildknecht).
[20:16:30] <buildmaster> ttf-inconsolata is broken (says buildknecht).
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[20:50:40] <HoloIRCUser4> Hello everybody
[20:50:45] <deep42thought> Hi HoloIRCUser4
[20:56:22] <HoloIRCUser4> I want to set up automatic connection through netctl, but I think netctl-auto didn't work. I make with WiFi-menu -o profiles for wifi, but netctl reports what he didn't find me profile. Where did he looking profiles?
[20:56:42] <deep42thought> /etc/netcl
[20:56:54] <deep42thought> there are examples in /etc/netctl/examples IIRC
[20:57:07] <deep42thought> yes, right
[20:57:26] <HoloIRCUser4> he is there
[20:57:46] <deep42thought> what does "netctl list" tell you?
[20:58:28] HoloIRCUser4 is now known as sich
[20:58:31] <deep42thought> can you connect manually with netctl?
[20:58:46] <deep42thought> e.g. does "netctl start your-connection" work?
[20:58:55] <sich> Yes
[20:59:39] <sich> If I start wifi with wifi-menu or netctl start it work
[20:59:49] <deep42thought> interesting
[21:00:24] <deep42thought> and "systemctl status netctl-auto@your-interface" says, the unit is running properly?
[21:00:38] <deep42thought> I mean the auto-unit
[21:03:20] <sich> Oh sorry
[21:03:48] <sich> It's earned
[21:04:26] <sich> needed a reboot
[21:04:33] <deep42thought> ah :-)
[21:04:42] <deep42thought> that fixes (almost) everything ;-)
[21:05:14] <sich> I think it happened only in Windows
[21:05:44] <deep42thought> well, as soon as you compile your kernel with modules, you must expect to reboot it
[21:06:27] <sich> Don't know, thanks
[21:06:33] <deep42thought> sich: np
[21:07:11] <deep42thought> It's just, that if you install a new kernel, all the modules of the old one are gone and you need to reboot in order to load any new ones (e.g. if you plug in a usb stick or mount an iso)
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[21:10:31] <sich> how about font in console
[21:10:32] <sich> ?
[21:10:52] <deep42thought> um, I have no experience in that field
[21:11:19] <deep42thought> but this should not be 32 bit specific - so you may also get help in the wiki or on #archlinux
[21:11:29] <sich> yes
[21:11:53] <sich> i read many posts and wiki
[21:12:11] <sich> it's about framebuffer
[21:12:40] <deep42thought> ah, sry
[21:12:44] <deep42thought> misunderstood
[21:12:44] <sich> also i have shitty netbook with GMA 3600 graphic adapter
[21:13:18] <sich> oh, forget
[21:14:12] <sich> thanks for answers, i'm out for sleep
[21:14:20] <sich> good night
[21:14:25] <deep42thought> good night
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[21:59:59] <Alina-malina> why those repos are so slow?
[22:00:14] <tyzoid> Alina-malina: Which repo are you using, and where are you located?
[22:00:20] <tyzoid> Most are quite quick, if you pick one close to you.
[22:00:28] <Alina-malina> i am using the singapore one
[22:00:41] <Alina-malina> 64.9 MiB 65.0K/s 08:00
[22:00:57] <tyzoid> brtln ^ Any issues you've been seeing on the Singapore mirror?
[22:00:58] <Alina-malina> its the most fastest for me
[22:01:12] <Alina-malina> usa canada are all 18kb/s
[22:01:19] <tyzoid> Where are you located?
[22:01:20] <Alina-malina> so i picked the most fastest one
[22:01:24] <tyzoid> as in country?
[22:01:31] <Alina-malina> ummm i have high speed internet connection
[22:01:36] <Alina-malina> i checked with speedtest
[22:01:38] <Alina-malina> .py
[22:01:45] <Alina-malina> is this speed ok?
[22:01:48] <Alina-malina> AM
[22:02:35] <Alina-malina> well, its ok for me though, i am glad i could do the transition
[22:02:43] <Alina-malina> but was just out of curiousity this is hell slow
[22:02:51] <Alina-malina> i even did not upgrade my packages
[22:02:54] <Alina-malina> yet
[22:03:37] <tyzoid> I can't help you unless you say where you're located geographically.
[22:03:42] <tyzoid> I don't need specifics, just country.
[22:03:46] <Alina-malina> AM
[22:04:10] <tyzoid> AM == Armenia?
[22:04:13] <Alina-malina> ye
[22:04:17] <Alina-malina> lol
[22:04:26] <tyzoid> Sorry, I'm from the USA, I don't know all the country codes.
[22:04:40] <Alina-malina> i did not want to reveal my location lolz but uts ok
[22:05:29] <tyzoid> And you've tried all the mirrors?
[22:05:36] <tyzoid> What's your speedtest to a server in Germany?
[22:05:42] <Alina-malina> well i tried canada, germany and then singapore
[22:05:56] <Alina-malina> 18kb/s
[22:06:02] <Alina-malina> oh u mean speedtest?
[22:06:04] <tyzoid> that
[22:06:04] <Alina-malina> i dont know
[22:06:10] <tyzoid> That's what speedtest is reporting?
[22:06:12] <tyzoid> yeah speedtest
[22:06:58] <Alina-malina> its selecting the best server to ping
[22:06:58] <tyzoid> If the speedtest shows slow, it's probably just a slow route you're hitting out of the country. If the speedtest is fast, it is indicative of a routing issue on our end somewhere.
[22:07:00] <Alina-malina> i am not sure how to set it up
[22:07:06] <tyzoid> You want to manually specify region
[22:07:14] <Alina-malina> yes how?
[22:08:06] <tyzoid> I assume you're using speedtest-cli. should be `speedtest-cli --list` to list servers, then select on in Germany. Then use `speedtest-cli --server <server_id>` with the selected server
[22:11:28] <tyzoid> From where I am, I'm getting 20mbps symmetric up through to Germany across the Atlantic Ocean
[22:11:31] <Alina-malina> Download: 87.68 Mbit/s
[22:11:31] <Alina-malina> Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
[22:11:31] <Alina-malina> Upload: 66.14 Mbit/s
[22:11:38] <Alina-malina> thats germany
[22:11:40] <tyzoid> What was the server ID?
[22:11:48] <Alina-malina> 4997
[22:13:01] <tyzoid> Are you accessing the mirror services via http or https?
[22:13:10] <tyzoid> !give Alina-malina ptpb
[22:13:11] <phrik> Alina-malina: “<command> 2>&1 | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw” OR “curl -F c=@path/to/a/file https://ptpb.pw” OR install community/pbpst
[22:13:17] <tyzoid> can you paste your mirrorlist?
[22:14:05] <Alina-malina> yes lol i forgot the location let me remember it
[22:14:06] <Alina-malina> of the file
[22:14:07] <Alina-malina> lol
[22:14:29] <tyzoid> `/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist`
[22:14:39] <tyzoid> Alina-malina: ^
[22:14:40] <Alina-malina> oh fod it
[22:14:44] <Alina-malina> found*
[22:14:47] <Alina-malina> just a moment i paste it
[22:15:04] <tyzoid> be sure to use a paste site (I like ptpb)
[22:16:39] <Alina-malina> curl: no URL specified!
[22:16:44] <Alina-malina> curl -F c=@mirrorlist
[22:16:50] <Alina-malina> oh
[22:16:52] <Alina-malina> just a sec
[22:17:45] <Alina-malina> <title>500 Internal Server Error</title>
[22:17:46] <Alina-malina> lol
[22:18:02] <Alina-malina> i use https
[22:18:13] <tyzoid> `curl -F c=@/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist https://ptpb.pw` should do it
[22:18:14] <phrik> Title: pb (at ptpb.pw)
[22:18:57] <Alina-malina> <title>500 Internal Server Error</title>
[22:19:49] <tyzoid> odd. Can you let me know what the speedtest server 3222 gives you?
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[22:21:12] <Alina-malina> Testing download speed................................................................................
[22:21:12] <Alina-malina> Download: 72.97 Mbit/s
[22:21:12] <Alina-malina> Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
[22:21:12] <Alina-malina> Upload: 48.17 Mbit/s
[22:22:47] <Alina-malina> so i need to do this operation pacman -Syuu but i am not sure how long it may take
[22:22:58] <tyzoid> Can you put your mirrorlist on https://bpaste.net instead?
[22:22:59] <phrik> Title: new at bpaste (at bpaste.net)
[22:23:10] <tyzoid> Looks like ptpb is down, for now.
[22:23:42] <Alina-malina> https://bpaste.net
[22:23:43] <phrik> Title: show at bpaste (at bpaste.net)
[22:27:05] <tyzoid> I'm honestly not sure what's up with that...
[22:27:55] <Alina-malina> well its ok, and also please tell me https://bpaste.net which one to pick up?
[22:27:56] <phrik> Title: show at bpaste (at bpaste.net)
[22:28:19] <tyzoid> that isn't pacman.
[22:29:13] <tyzoid> You are running archlinux, not a derivative, like Manjaro or Antergos, right?
[22:29:34] <Alina-malina> i did a transition to your place and no its archlinux
[22:29:42] <Alina-malina> i dont know what manjaro or atergos is lol
[22:29:51] <tyzoid> you should use pacman, not yaourt or pacaur
[22:30:00] <Alina-malina> hmmm why?
[22:30:17] <tyzoid> We don't support AUR packages in the transition. Those will need to be updated separately.
[22:30:37] <tyzoid> You're free to use it, as its your system, but I can't help with the other tools.
[22:32:38] <Alina-malina> anyways thanks for help tyzoird
[22:32:43] <Alina-malina> tyzoid*
[22:33:13] <tyzoid> Ok. Hope things start speeding up, that'd be painfully slow to me too.
[22:35:36] <brtln> no idea, we don't use smokeping to monitor networking
[22:36:02] <brtln> but I'd be surprised if anything is wrong with these machines from networking side
[22:38:23] <tyzoid> brtln: Yeah, I mean they were getting very slow connections to all of our mirrors, which would lead me to believe it's a networking error on their side
[22:38:38] <tyzoid> but speedtest was reporting quick connections to the same geographic locations as our mirrors
[22:38:44] <tyzoid> which would indicate something on our side.
[22:39:03] <tyzoid> I suspect there's something misconfigured on their system, but they're not using pacman, so I can't help much there.
[22:39:09] * brtln shrugs
[22:39:11] <tyzoid> yaourt or something
[22:39:30] <tyzoid> just making sure you hadn't seen anything out of the ordinary.
[22:39:36] <tyzoid> thanks brtln
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[23:55:09] <buildmaster> purpose is broken (says buildknecht).