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[06:35:57] <Solskogen> felixonmars|M: thank you!
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[09:44:53] <nl6720> gromit (and others): https://wiki.archlinux.org
[09:44:54] <phrik> Title: Talk:Frequently asked questions - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[10:58:53] <Solskogen> Ok, I'm about to get rid of the [release] repo and exchange that for [core] and [extra] - expect some breakage if you'r using the repos (you can start adding core and extra now)
[11:01:25] <gromit> Solskogen: nice work!
[11:01:38] <gromit> Solskogen: I'll look into changing my pacman confs later on
[11:02:46] <gromit> Also I think we should get a place to host issues and documentation, now that the project is picking up speed and other people are eager to join in
[11:13:09] <Solskogen> How much can I trust https://gitlab.archlinux.org ?
[11:13:11] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux / Packaging / State · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
[11:14:01] <jelle> Solskogen: 100%, howso
[11:14:40] <Solskogen> because I find linux-api-headers in both core-any and core-x86_64
[11:15:49] <Solskogen> gromit: as of now I don't plan to follow core-testing and extra-testing. That might come in the future.
[11:16:23] <Solskogen> and yes, I agree. A place to have some documentation would be nice.
[11:20:36] <nl6720> isn't that what infrastructure!699 is about?
[11:20:37] <phrik> https://gitlab.archlinux.org - Add artafinde to dev and multilib groups (!699) · Merge requests · Arch Linux / infrastructure · GitLab
[11:20:44] <nl6720> oops.
[11:20:51] <nl6720> infrastructure#699
[11:20:52] <phrik> https://gitlab.archlinux.org - Project space for the Aarch64 Linux project (#699) · Issues · Arch Linux / infrastructure · GitLab
[11:21:06] * nl6720 keeps mixing up the symbols
[11:22:57] <Solskogen> nl6720: that's correct :-)
[11:25:02] <nl6720> so basically something like "gitlab.archlinux.org/ports/aarch64", I would guess. it would work for collecting relevant issues and showstoppers, though I'm not sure about documenting the state of the port
[11:26:38] <Solskogen> mostly a "this is how you can install it" and "yes, not all packages exists in the aarch64 repo and here's a list and why"
[11:26:57] <nl6720> I'd like to suggest ArchWiki as a place for documentation (since anyone would be able to edit it), but some people may not like that
[11:27:24] <Solskogen> That makes it a bit too official imho
[11:27:47] <Solskogen> BUT if the Arch devs are okay with that, I'm in.
[11:28:08] <nl6720> it the goal is not to become an official port, then I'd say why bother at all
[11:28:46] <Solskogen> because it's a work in progress and we don't have any commit access ourside our own repos
[11:29:17] <nl6720> but the goal is to become an official port, right?
[11:29:22] <Solskogen> but that's not up to me. That's up to the devs.
[11:29:30] <Solskogen> other than that, I agree with you.
[11:29:41] <Solskogen> That's the goal, yes.
[11:32:21] <Solskogen> I'd like to cooperate as much as possible with the other unofficial ports as well, so we have a somewhat unified way of keeping the packages up to date.
[11:32:42] <gromit> nl6720: to be honest I think quite some of the documentation will not fit the style of the wiki as we will need a few very explicit guides to start out and refine them as we move along (something like setting up VM's)
[11:32:54] <Solskogen> No reason that three projects (aarch64, risc and loong64) have three different ways of figuring out how to keep packages up to date, I mean.
[11:33:06] <gromit> I will send an email about this to a-d-p later on aswell ^_^
[11:33:16] <Solskogen> purrfect!
[11:34:22] <Solskogen> I don't have access to send mails to a-d-p, is that something we should discuss?
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[11:38:09] <nl6720> speaking of VMs, I was looking at how to build OVMF for loongarch64, but sadly there's no loongarch64-linux-gnu-gcc (and deps) in the repos. while the ones in AUR are bad
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[11:38:37] <nl6720> this ^ was a hint for those who don't have enough packages to maintain already
[11:40:03] <Solskogen> I have a skeleton thingy here that haven't been checked for a while that MIGHT help: https://github.com
[11:40:05] <phrik> Title: GitHub - solskogen/cross-pkgbuilds (at github.com)
[11:43:56] <gromit> Solskogen: Sending mails to arch-dev-public is reserved to staff only, but you can subscribe of course
[11:44:15] <gromit> Solskogen: you can answer to arch-general though
[11:47:35] <anthraxx|M> nl6720: Solskogen the efforts and attempts are official, these particular poc repos and tools aren't. its important to distinguish conceptually between them. we want to have official visibility what needs to be thought of or tackled, without promoting "your" repositories and infra as semi-official, especially before we re-bootstrap.
[11:49:50] <anthraxx|M> <Solskogen> "because I find linux-api-headers..." <- seems like a state repo bug, can you open a bug ticket as todo?
[11:50:31] <jelle> linux-api-headers should be $arch specific iirc?
[11:51:10] <anthraxx|M> jelle: i think its just a left over entry in the state repo after the package changed $arch
[11:51:19] <jelle> anthraxx|M: right
[12:40:03] <Solskogen> I can't seem to open a issue in that repo
[12:49:13] <gromit> Solskogen: which one?
[12:49:48] <Solskogen> the state-repo
[12:57:38] <gromit> Solskogen: Please file the ticket with https://gitlab.archlinux.org
[12:57:39] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux / infrastructure · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
[13:03:13] <Solskogen> gromit: done!
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[18:00:03] <gromit> Solskogen: FYI regarding https://gitlab.archlinux.org Antiz and I can't update packages in [core]
[18:00:04] <phrik> Title: Sign in · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
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