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[00:25:35] <kwasp> hello
[00:25:40] <kwasp> BUG in kernel of linux that cut half of SSIDs for wpa_supplicant: 5.11.10 and low work fine (5.10.*). any other last version work bad.
[00:25:54] <kwasp> i'm use linux-lts now. and work fine. thanks.
[00:35:21] <T`aZ> you might want to report that upstream
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[07:54:58] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[07:54:58] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[07:54:59] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> Linux - the new Windows
[08:17:13] <abaumann> icu69 shim ahead, icu 70 breaking builds currently..
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[10:01:34] <abaumann> icu69 shim available, gettext rebuilt, so things should build again now.
[10:28:38] <abaumann> adding some icu69 to more packages..
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[17:26:49] <tacokoneko> hello i have this issue https://github.com matching hkmaly's experience, i compiled palemoon 28 natively in 2020 on pentium iii katmai successfully without encountering this
[17:31:26] <tacokoneko> now i would like very much palemoon 29 on pentium4/bonnell however i encounter that error on normal native arch linux 32 and also in a kludged arch linux 32 archroot i created on an amd64 arch linux host
[17:34:09] <abaumann> hi, you are compiling natively and hitting the limit of the virtual address space?
[17:34:24] <abaumann> in this case fiddling with the linker and with linker options might help.
[17:34:34] <tacokoneko> is this any kind of real, conditional, or pretended 32-bit memory limitation, and if so, is there possibly any kind of true bootstrapped amd64-i686 cross-compiler toolchain, or anything else like that, that i could create that could theoretically help?
[17:35:26] <abaumann> if you are compiling on true 32-bit or in a 32-chroot you will hit the 4GB limit (or sooner). cross-compilation should always work (when it is supported).
[17:35:28] <tacokoneko> there is plenty of swap that is mostly empty at the point of failure
[17:35:38] <abaumann> swap alone doesn't help
[17:35:49] <abaumann> after 4GB the address space is exhausted, no matter what.
[17:35:57] <tacokoneko> oh no
[17:36:03] <abaumann> Usually swapping Gold LD against the old LD helps
[17:36:16] <abaumann> I had some fun with firefox/thunderbird/seamonkey, etc.
[17:36:49] <abaumann> We are still trying to build eveything at least in 32-bit VMs or chroots.
[17:37:01] <abaumann> but I see that some packages might be an exception
[17:37:56] <abaumann> Disabling LTO also helps. LTO needs all objects files of libxul.so to be in memory, more or less.
[17:38:01] <abaumann> Otherwise it cannot optimize.
[17:38:24] <abaumann> Disabling debug symbols sometimes helps, so the object files don't get as fat as usual in the first place.
[17:39:38] <tacokoneko> ok thanks for the tips, i will attempt to switch to gold and disable debug symbols and LTO
[17:39:48] <abaumann> good luck :-)
[17:40:05] * abaumann remebers that I should do that on firefox and friends too and try once more..
[18:04:40] <tacokoneko> ok i found disabling debug symbols for mozconfig and I believe the linker called that actually printed the error is a symlink to this, which when called: $($CHROOT/root/usr/bin/gcc-10 -print-prog-name=ld.gold) -v prints GNU gold (GNU Binutils 2.36.1) 1.16 so it seems like ld.gold alone is already enabled and not enough
[18:05:38] <tacokoneko> so next it is only LTO, i have disabled this before in projects but not disabled in firefox or palemoon yet so i will find out how
[18:10:50] <abaumann> you can peek in our PKGBUILD diffs in https://git.archlinux32.org
[18:10:52] <phrik> Title: packages - Archlinux32 package modifications (at git.archlinux32.org)
[18:11:00] <abaumann> and I meant to use the BFD ld and not the gold linker.
[18:11:11] <abaumann> But I don't recall, if that is even supported anymore
[18:16:09] <tacokoneko> wow yes there are recent firefox binaries in arch linux 32, amazing job, i will read your PKGBUILD
[18:17:00] <abaumann> well, not that recent, sadly..
[18:29:44] <tacokoneko> yes as for switching to bfd linked the way you show in mozconfig, for palemoon I see Unknown option: --enable-linker. however i imagine i could chop up the build system to call the bfd linker anyway and see if it works
[18:31:08] <tacokoneko> --disable-lto is also unknown
[18:38:12] <abaumann> There was a lto option in makepkg.conf IIRC, check where -flto is added (if it is added)
[18:38:31] <abaumann> what could also help is to use the devtools32 (staging-pentium4-build) to build palemoon
[18:38:56] <abaumann> I'm also running a pentium4 palemoon build currently..
[18:39:00] <abaumann> ..let's see what I get. :-)
[18:47:03] <tacokoneko> i hope it works for you! the makepkg.conf I am using in my chroot does not contain flto, but it does contain OPTIONS=(... !lto)
[18:50:42] * abaumann crosses fingers
[18:55:23] <abaumann> 26:34.20 ../../build/unix/gold/ld: fatal error: libxul.so: mmap: failed to allocate 1821409028 bytes for output file: Cannot allocate memory
[19:00:35] <abaumann> we have to find out all the options in mozconfig.in we can set and change linkers, disable lto, etc
[19:00:48] <abaumann> I don't think mach respects CFLAGS and friends
[19:02:47] <tacokoneko> unfortunately that is exactly what i got, and probably will get again soon
[19:03:09] <tacokoneko> in src/palemoon-source/platform/build/autoconf/compiler-opts.m4 is where that linker appears to me to be set, i will attempt to change it
[19:08:01] <tacokoneko> except i guess everyone with this has a very slightly different value, mine is 1844492784 bytes
[19:11:08] <abaumann> right.
[19:11:34] <abaumann> I'm testing a -Os in optimize flags. Maybe the size of the code shrinks this way and can be linked in the end.
[19:24:26] <tacokoneko> i have just had a build success with these makepkg.conf, PKGBUILD and mozconfig.in: https://termbin.com https://termbin.com https://termbin.com
[19:25:36] <tacokoneko> note some of the settings i have made are quick cheats or specifically targeted for the CPU I want to use
[19:26:06] <tacokoneko> i will test it at runtime now
[19:27:02] <tacokoneko> for this build i didn't apply all the changes I had in mind or that you mentioned, but I will keep them in mind
[19:39:58] <tacokoneko> :) https://i.imgur.com thank you for helping, i wonder whether, though the issue is closed, there is any way to let hkmaly from the palemoon-overlay gentoo issue know it is possible
[20:01:37] <abaumann> a nice :-)
[20:01:39] <abaumann> np.
[20:02:38] <abaumann> mmh. you can always open an issue and see what happens..
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[20:55:56] <KillerWasp_> hello
[20:56:06] <KillerWasp_> i finish to install all the system
[21:05:55] <bill-auger> congratulations KillerWasp_
[21:07:05] <KillerWasp_> bill-auger, thanks.
[21:07:24] <KillerWasp_> bill-auger, Were you watching everything in silence? ¬¬
[21:07:53] <girls> KillerWasp_: all of us were ;)
[21:08:22] <KillerWasp_> lol
[21:08:24] <girls> no, honestly: I read your last batch of messages shortly after you left ;)
[21:08:53] <KillerWasp_> well. I hope you enjoyed the show. >:(
[21:09:16] <girls> I would have liked to help, but I was too late ...
[21:10:23] <KillerWasp_> I kept restarting it, that's why I didn't even enter anymore.
[21:11:04] <KillerWasp_> restart, change the order disk in bios, restart, run, restart, change the order disk in bios, restart, run, and more cycles
[21:12:32] <KillerWasp_> by lucky i can fix the gpg problem, and late have the problem with internet, wrong with the drivers of the kernel and i report it in the bugzilla of your community.
[21:12:49] <KillerWasp_> now i'm use linux-lts and work fine.
[21:13:06] <KillerWasp_> like in the last ISO live.
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[22:22:42] <abaumann> what did I miss? ;-)
[22:22:52] <girls> fight, fight, fight
[22:23:29] <abaumann> lol :-)
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[22:54:03] <bill-auger> KillerWasp: it is the norm for IRC - most people are logged-in 24/7 but rarely pay attention, each reading and responding at their own convenience - chatter is usually more asynchronous like email, than synchronous like a real-time chat/conference
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