#archlinux32 | Logs for 2022-05-01

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[08:13:59] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[08:13:59] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[08:14:00] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> but I have to tame some of my slaves first..
[08:14:33] <abaumann> agvantibo: this sounds like a mount issue with your root file system (what is it, how has it been created?). Either that or there is a bug in mount itself..
[08:15:05] <abaumann> I'll make a new ISO today anyway, let's see, if this is helpfing.. :-)
[08:16:08] <abaumann> So, the error is on 2022.04.03, not on the installation. mmh.
[08:17:07] <abaumann> I'll make a bug report..
[08:18:32] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[08:18:34] <phrik> Title: FS#256 : [ISO] fails to boot, mount value too large error (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
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[16:36:01] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[16:36:01] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[16:36:02] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> I'm all for an docdepends upstreams and a doc hook, in order to reduce all those silly dependencies just to get documentation nobody reads afterwards, because they don't know about the 'man' command.. (rant of the day)
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[17:47:36] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[17:47:36] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[17:47:37] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> singularity applied to software development - releases and changes get faster and faster.. till..
[17:48:33] <bill-auger> till... computers boot directly into electron
[17:52:09] <abaumann> ah, they are not already? ;-)
[17:53:07] <abaumann> mmh. archinstall is all nice, but what if I want to have a swap partition for suspending the laptop? zram is not helping there I suppose..
[17:56:31] <abaumann> ..mmh, it seems suspend-to-disk is so pre-2022 it seems..
[17:58:00] <abaumann> is /dev/zram0 really being written to swap on hibernation?
[17:58:01] <bill-auger> abaumann: iceweasel 99 for i686 compiled on the first try - GJ !!
[17:58:10] <abaumann> wow.
[17:58:11] <abaumann> cool. :-)
[17:58:32] <abaumann> I have to say, also firefox 99 is the first one I can at least run on a 1 GB machine, it's somewhat usable..
[17:58:43] <abaumann> before I got out of memory issues or heavy swapping very fast.
[17:59:53] <bill-auger> there are a few typos in your PKGBUILD, just in comments
[18:00:04] <abaumann> ah, thanks
[18:00:17] <abaumann> but rebuiling for hours just for a fixed comment seems wasteful. :-)
[18:01:16] <bill-auger> "Now 2.5 GB can be strupped to 166 MB, " <- would be _very_ impressive if it was spelled correctly
[18:01:28] * abaumann blushes
[18:01:44] <abaumann> didn't see _that_ one yet :-)
[18:02:08] <bill-auger> i forgot the other - it was a word broken onto teo lines
[18:02:40] <abaumann> I'm usually a bit sloppy in my language..
[18:03:43] <abaumann> d eclaration..
[18:05:01] <bill-auger> yea it no problem at all - i copied the typo into the parabola PKGBUILD verbatim - it adds charm
[18:05:22] <abaumann> lol
[18:09:15] <abaumann> btw: do you have any plans to use 'archinstall' on the ISO?
[18:12:36] <bill-auger> no we already had a ncurses installer for years
[18:13:08] <bill-auger> and i spent too many hours hacking on it to toss it out now
[18:13:20] <abaumann> oh, sorry my ignorance
[18:13:52] <abaumann> yes, understandable to keep it then.
[18:13:54] <bill-auger> plus we have the calamares installer for the GUI ISO - plus good ol' pacstrap for the grey-beards - thats enough
[18:14:24] <abaumann> I was hesitating to add it to archlinux32 and keep it the grey-bearded way.
[18:14:46] <abaumann> but in in the end, it was not a big task to go from 'no installer' to 'archinstall' :-)
[18:15:18] <abaumann> and deviation from upstream is as little as possible. so people expecting archinstall to be there, get one.
[18:15:38] <bill-auger> i tried to build an i686 ISO this week and it would not boot - didnt have the bandwidth to find out why
[18:15:56] <abaumann> https://bugs.archlinux32.org
[18:15:58] <phrik> Title: FS#256 : [ISO] fails to boot, mount value too large error (at bugs.archlinux32.org)
[18:16:04] <abaumann> I have some (reported) trouble myself.
[18:16:58] <abaumann> and there are more and more people complaining about hangs after boot and after loading the ramdisk.
[18:17:05] <abaumann> but I cannot reproduce the issues..
[18:17:07] <bill-auger> maybe - this was booting openrc - i dont remember any obvious errors - it just froze before the "login" stage
[18:17:31] <bill-auger> i will try systemd for the next one
[18:18:07] <abaumann> I had some archinstall issues now on the 2022.05.01.i686 image, and some packages I have to blacklist..
[18:18:15] <abaumann> ..but I'm currently only testing in libvirt/qemu
[18:18:26] <abaumann> real hardware might think bad of the iso..
[18:18:59] <abaumann> and I have to adapt archinstall -> archinstall32 (for a subarchitecture pickler for instance)
[18:21:19] <bill-auger> feel free to adopt ours - the latest version still needs debugging; but it is a much more pleasant experience
[18:23:13] <bill-auger> IIRC the only thing you need to type is the login and passwords - it offers language, timezone, anything it can, as TUI selections
[18:23:58] <abaumann> I'm still searching for something doing GUI/TUI/serial console fallback based on a single desctription of the dialogs.
[18:24:28] <abaumann> not for arch32 necessarily, there I wuold like to stick to upstream, if possible,
[18:25:01] <abaumann> they may go back to the grey-bearded mode when they get bored of archinstall/Python. ;-)
[18:43:55] <abaumann> ok, zram-generator builds, rust is there on i686 and pentium4, if this is needed to make archinstall happy. well.
[18:44:50] <abaumann> with all this uefi, secure boot, kernel craziness I'm pretty sure that hibernation will not work on modern machines. :->
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