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[18:57:56] <deep42thought> dopsi: I sent you an invitation on github, so you can update the magnet links to the iso by yourself in the future :-)
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[19:48:10] <jelle> magnets! how do they even work
[19:49:39] <deep42thought> You know the antitrust law of magneto statics?
[19:51:09] <tyzoid> uh
[19:51:46] <deep42thought> there are no magnetic monopoles
[19:51:54] <deep42thought> "div B=0"
[19:52:16] <jelle> it was a joke ;-)
[19:52:39] <deep42thought> which part?
[19:52:46] <jelle> 'how do they even work'
[19:53:04] <jelle> it's a meme ;-)
[19:53:11] <deep42thought> ah, yes, that for sure
[19:53:36] <deep42thought> on the other hand "div B=0" explains close to nothing ...
[19:53:51] <tyzoid> Just like E=mc^2.
[19:54:00] <tyzoid> You gotta know what E, m, c, and 2 represent.
[19:54:41] <deep42thought> what's a "2"?
[19:55:28] <tyzoid> It's value hovers somewhere around 1.997 * 10^0 and 2.004*10^0, but you can't ever be sure.
[19:56:07] <tyzoid> It's usually just defined and assumed equal to some nice round number.
[19:57:02] <deep42thought> approximately (e^pi-pi)/10
[19:58:16] <tyzoid> lol
[19:59:05] <deep42thought> https://xkcd.com
[19:59:07] <phrik> Title: xkcd: e to the pi Minus pi (at xkcd.com)
[19:59:25] <brtln> fyi, we're having problems with ind and jpn mirrors
[19:59:56] <deep42thought> due to us?
[20:00:06] <deep42thought> or just also-concerning-us?
[20:00:06] <tyzoid> deep42thought: No, the boxes kicked the can
[20:00:14] <brtln> hopefully to be resolved till friday but I have very indirect influence over when things will be fixed
[20:00:14] <tyzoid> afaik also-concerning-us
[20:00:25] <brtln> concerning you, not due to you
[20:00:30] <deep42thought> k, thx for the info and np
[20:00:32] <deep42thought> :-)
[20:00:54] <brtln> you can either cname it to sgp.pkgbuild.com or count that nobody notices
[20:00:55] <tyzoid> brtln: Do you want us to remap the IPs to those boxes like you did for the main arch mirrors?
[20:01:01] <tyzoid> lol
[20:01:05] <tyzoid> ninjad
[20:03:02] <deep42thought> ok, I'll change the ip in a few minutes
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[20:08:50] <deep42thought> Hi Andreas
[20:09:05] <tyzoid> wb
[20:14:07] <deep42thought> brtln: What's the problem with the mirrors? They seem up and fine to me
[20:14:40] <deep42thought> ah, no
[20:14:48] <deep42thought> you cnamed them to a different host :-)
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[20:55:53] <brtln> yep
[20:56:20] <brtln> shitty solution but better than nothing
[20:56:25] <deep42thought> yeah, then there is nothing to do for me, because we just cname to your dns
[20:57:16] <tyzoid> ah, nice
[21:23:45] <isacdaavid> hi. i would like to know under what circumstances pkgrel is modified from what we find in Arch
[21:24:35] <deep42thought> a sub_pkgrel is appended
[21:24:40] <deep42thought> which starts at 0
[21:24:45] <deep42thought> and increments for each rebuild
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[21:26:02] <deep42thought> e.g. linux-4.14.3-1 becomes linux-4.14.3-1.0 and if we ever recompile that pkgver+pkgrel it becomes linux-4.14.3-1.1 and so on
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[21:28:12] <isacdaavid> i think i get it now. thanks
[21:28:14] <deep42thought> that said, old packages do not have the additional sub_pkgrel, but they're treated as if sub_pkgrel=0
[21:28:16] <deep42thought> :-)
[21:28:30] <isacdaavid> yes, that's what confused me in the first place
[21:28:49] <isacdaavid> but i see that everything in staging is using the sub-pkgrel
[21:29:29] <deep42thought> yeah, it's just a matter of time until the majority of our packages will have a sub_pkgrel
[21:29:36] <deep42thought> (similar with signatures)
[21:29:49] <deep42thought> I mean signatures from _our_ keys
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