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[09:51:05] <deep42thought> I wonder, if I'm too pedantic, some times: https://bugs.archlinux.org
[09:51:07] <phrik> Title: FS#56697 : [groovy] pkgrel decreased (at bugs.archlinux.org)
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[10:14:09] <jelle> nope that's bad
[10:18:00] <jelle> pinged the dev deep42thought
[10:18:02] <jelle> *tu
[10:18:50] <deep42thought> well, it was for 3 minutes only
[10:19:00] <deep42thought> but the buildmaster saw it :-)
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[15:50:38] <deep42thought> abaumann_: systemd's package fails with "chown: invalid group: ‘root:systemd-journal’" - maybe, you can have a look at that?
[15:50:59] <deep42thought> because I need to leave in a few minutes
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[18:01:18] <abaumann> deep42thought: chown ‘root:systemd-journal’", why does this sound familiar after the yesterday discussion about systemd? ;-)
[18:01:40] <abaumann> I have to reinstall my test images anyway, so I'll have a look.
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[18:07:53] <abaumann> /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles: error while loading shared libraries: libcryptsetup.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:08:13] <abaumann> that's the nice thing about systemd.. if it fails, the whole system fails. :-)
[18:24:08] <abaumann> mmh. systemd builds locally on my slave.. most likely I still have the groups in /etc/group :->
[18:24:16] <abaumann> I'll build there so the queue gets unblocked..
[18:29:27] <abaumann> git://github.com and git://github.com
[18:30:00] <abaumann> lovely, I would actually make it a requirement to name packaged using git checkouts with git, no matter whether they use releases or git versions.
[18:34:12] <guys> What do you mean by that
[18:34:30] <guys> Also systemd-stable uses commits by rev-list --count since the last tag
[18:34:37] <guys> (importing tags from ststemd.git)
[18:34:43] <abaumann> systemd people use bleeding-edge distributions as guinea pigs.
[18:35:05] <guys> It's rather odd, because gpg verification is totally borked :p
[18:35:14] <brtln> wat
[18:35:17] <abaumann> my problem is a philosophical one: if everybody thinks, it's ok to just "release to github", then no effort is put anymore in releasing.
[18:35:26] <abaumann> hu?
[18:35:55] <jelle> wat?
[18:36:02] <abaumann> the libcryptsetup.so.4 problem I blame on the dependency calculation, actually.
[18:36:15] <guys> brtln: the philosophy of gpg verifying something you're not actually using, is silly IMHO
[18:36:21] <brtln> nah, it's surely systemd people treating you as guinea pigs
[18:36:43] <guys> don't gpg-verify a tag, then build against something 38 commits later
[18:37:26] <brtln> we need that security theatre for some people from security team :)
[18:37:29] <abaumann> to be fair. linux and systemd can only release if people test, but testing only happens, if software is released to the wild.. a henn and egg problem.
[18:37:51] <guys> abaumann: at least the kernel has lots of people who do run linux-manline
[18:38:38] <abaumann> I cannot reproduce the chgrp problem when building systemd, that's my main focus right now..
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[18:55:29] <abaumann> ok. can reproduce now: chown: invalid group: root:systemd-journal during package_systemd()
[18:56:34] <guys> well... that would be hardcoding a gid
[18:57:37] <abaumann> my /etc/group looks like root:x:0:root
[18:57:37] <abaumann> builduser:x:0:
[18:57:44] <abaumann> one bonus user. :-)
[18:58:18] <abaumann> let me check, if devtools32 is actually in sync with devtools..
[18:58:32] <guys> Does it not have the sysusers created by filesystem etc. ?
[18:59:00] <abaumann> as devtools32 is a fork it may be out of sync.. checking..
[19:06:35] <abaumann> mmh. cannot spot differences here. and during build /var/lib/archbuild/staging-i686/copy/etc/passwd is root:x:0:0::/root:/bin/bash
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[19:08:03] <abaumann> /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles: error while loading shared libraries: libcryptsetup.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:08:08] <abaumann> ah back to that.
[19:08:28] <abaumann> just a tmpfiles hook trying to add some dirs, so probably harmless.
[19:09:34] <abaumann> this means.. our staging repo is now borked..
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[19:13:08] <abaumann> cryptsetup got promoted to 2.0, needed by systemd, systemd needed to populate /etc/passwd in order to rebuilt systemd. aha
[19:13:36] <abaumann> I'll try with a downgrade of cryptsetup and systemd, then rebuild a systemd withing that chroot.
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[19:17:01] <abaumann> deep42thought: still fighting with systemd. :-)
[19:17:15] <deep42thought> :-/ :-)
[19:17:38] <abaumann> (2/3) upgrading systemd [###################################] 100%
[19:17:44] <abaumann> /usr/bin/systemd-hwdb: error while loading shared libraries: libcryptsetup.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:17:47] <abaumann> nice.
[19:18:12] <abaumann> So my chroot with working systemd-hwdb, systemd-* whatever gets automatically upgraded again.
[19:18:15] <abaumann> *sigh*
[19:18:41] <abaumann> maybe you have to remove some packages from staging manually?
[19:19:10] <deep42thought> but how do you build a recent systemd w/o recent dependencies?
[19:19:38] <abaumann> yeah. I'm spotting a cycle there. :-(
[19:20:48] <abaumann> chgrp when building needing systemd-* to populate /etc/group. I get a headache.
[19:22:04] <abaumann> mmh. we could downgrade the chroot and remove pacman -Syyu in the script?
[19:22:16] <abaumann> till systemd is rebuilt.
[19:23:42] <abaumann> I'm sorry, but the build system is far too complex..
[19:24:40] <abaumann> it's like testing 32-bit compatibily with a docker image instead of using -m32 in a out-of-source-build-dir :-)
[19:28:28] <deep42thought> well, if you can come up with a better design for the "staging-i686-build" part, I'm open to suggestions :-)
[19:28:54] <abaumann> :-)
[19:29:10] <abaumann> general ranting at the moment...
[19:31:18] <abaumann> I really don't like this method of.. staging, test, stable as it's used at the moment. I would rather prefer a "stable universe here", rebuild complete universe. As i'm doing while cross-compiling.
[19:31:39] <abaumann> I'm aware this means you cannot be bleeding edge most likely.
[19:31:54] <abaumann> unless you have fast (or a lot of) machines.
[19:33:47] <guys> Well, archlinux has a pretty sweet build machine at pkgbuild.com :D
[19:34:42] <abaumann> mmh. sweet. :-)
[19:35:19] <guys> > This is an Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1275 v5 @ 3.60GHz server with 64264 MB of memory.
[19:37:10] <abaumann> ah... ah build system deleting logfiles after completion.. *argh*
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[20:38:53] <tyzoid> hey deep42thought: Your backup cronjob runs at ~6am your time, right?
[20:39:27] <deep42thought> 4:13 am
[20:39:42] <tyzoid> odd
[20:39:47] <deep42thought> + $(($RANDOM%3600)) seconds
[20:40:00] <deep42thought> why?
[20:40:17] <tyzoid> That would make some sense. I'm seeing high traffic between 23:00 and 24:00 ET
[20:40:35] <tyzoid> What time zone are you in again? UTC+1?
[20:40:48] <deep42thought> buildmaster is utc
[20:41:29] <tyzoid> Ok, so 4am is about right for that. Can you move it to 6am?
[20:41:58] <tyzoid> 6am UTC, that is.
[20:42:28] <deep42thought> ok
[20:42:30] <deep42thought> done
[20:42:40] <tyzoid> thanks!
[20:43:19] <tyzoid> At some point, I'll move it from srv0.tyzoid.com:2222 to just srv0.tyzoid.com, but that probably won't be until after christmas when I have time to reorganize everything
[20:43:29] <tyzoid> since cdn.tyzoid.com is also going away at some point
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[20:48:40] <deep42thought> hmm, systemd builds w/o issues on nlopc46
[20:48:46] <deep42thought> ... I'll just upload that ...
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[22:21:46] <deep42thought> I hate systemd
[22:21:51] <deep42thought> i really hate it
[22:30:39] <tyzoid> move arch32 to initrc?
[22:31:47] <deep42thought> currently I'm fighting with systemd on the master mirror
[22:31:53] <deep42thought> the update broke my container
[22:32:01] <deep42thought> whole /home is mounted for nobody:nobody
[22:32:32] <deep42thought> I think, we lack the menpower to diverge that far from upstream
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[22:37:52] <deep42thought> "sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set"
[22:37:56] <deep42thought> LOl
[22:40:09] <tyzoid> uh
[22:40:23] <tyzoid> did you broked sudo?
[22:40:27] <deep42thought> yes
[22:40:33] <deep42thought> it's owned by 997523456 now
[22:40:38] <deep42thought> I love systemd
[22:40:45] <deep42thought> can't imagine someone else doing this ...
[22:41:37] <deep42thought> !bug 56710
[22:41:38] <phrik> https://bugs.archlinux.org
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