#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2018-02-24
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[00:11:14] <buildmaster> dolphin-emu is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[00:56:38] <wilberfan> I haven't been able to update my system since 32-bit support went away a few months ago...
[00:56:57] <wilberfan> I keep getting kernel/nvidia errors...
[00:57:35] <wilberfan> I was using the linux-ck-core2 kernel--which I'm assuming is NOT supported anymore...
[01:01:37] <wilberfan> ":: nvidia: installing linux (4.14.15-1.0) breaks dependency 'linux<4.14'"
[01:03:06] <wilberfan> Maybe nvidia isn't up-to-date to run with the latest kernel:
[01:03:11] <wilberfan> "Depends On : linux>=4.13 linux<4.14 nvidia-utils=387.22 libgl"
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[05:23:42] <deep42thought> linux-ck-core2, huh? What's that kernel / where is it from?
[05:25:52] <deep42thought> also, wilberfan's nvidia seems outdated: ours in [extra] is 387.34
[05:26:10] <deep42thought> Installing an up to date kernel will probably solve his issue :-)
[06:02:58] <deep42thought> tyzoid: The spam on the forums is getting increasingly annoying.
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[08:58:59] <buildmaster> firefox-developer-edition is broken (says buildknecht3).
[10:28:17] <Alina-malina> i want to install ntopng in my archbox, but i am not sure if it works or its trail? can someone help me to figure this out?
[11:02:47] <abaumann> wget https://aur.archlinux.org && tar zxvf ntopng.tar.gz && cd ntopng && makepkg -si :-)
[11:18:26] <Alina-malina> yes, but aint it ask for licesnes bauman?
[11:19:48] <Alina-malina> abaumann, it has expiration time right?
[11:20:19] <abaumann> expiration time?
[11:20:57] <Alina-malina> yes its trial version right?
[11:21:32] <abaumann> I thought, this is the GPLv3 version.
[11:21:49] <Alina-malina> what that suppose to mean?
[11:22:17] <abaumann> free software.
[11:22:30] <abaumann> did you try to build it from the AUR?
[11:23:12] <Alina-malina> i have been told its a trial version
[11:23:15] <Alina-malina> so i am confused
[11:23:16] <Alina-malina> not sure what to do
[11:23:26] <Alina-malina> please can u confirm its free lr trial version?
[11:23:29] <Alina-malina> or*
[11:23:31] <abaumann> I'm not a lawyer. :-)
[11:23:42] <abaumann> everything you use in the AUR is at your own risk..
[11:24:06] <abaumann> so if you want to use it only for testing or for private use, you are most likely fine.
[11:24:18] <abaumann> if you plan to install it in a business environment, you have to check
[11:24:40] <Alina-malina> ok thanks abaumann
[11:24:42] <Alina-malina> let me try it
[11:25:27] <abaumann> ok
[11:26:25] <Alina-malina> abaumann, wget: unable to resolve host address ‘aur.archlinux.org’
[11:26:26] <Alina-malina> :-/
[11:31:16] <Alina-malina> ok its installing
[11:31:18] <Alina-malina> thanks for help
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[13:12:06] <Alina-malina> signature from andreas baumann ...... is marginal trust file is curroupted do you want to delete it? i get this error
[13:46:03] * buildmaster goes insane.
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[14:20:51] <abaumann> Alina-malina: did you install the archlinux32 keyrings during transition? Either they are missing or something is wrong with the signing. Which package has only marginal trust?
[14:23:30] <Alina-malina> abaumann, i dont think so i did the following:
[14:23:31] <Alina-malina> rm -r /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
[14:23:31] <Alina-malina> pacman-key --init
[14:23:31] <Alina-malina> pacman-key --populate archlinux
[14:23:31] <Alina-malina> pacman-key --populate archlinux32
[14:23:32] <Alina-malina> pacman -Sc
[14:23:35] <Alina-malina> pacman -Syuu
[14:23:41] <Alina-malina> now watiing....
[14:23:47] <Alina-malina> i hope this will fix the issue
[14:23:59] <Alina-malina> and its so slow downloading from repositories
[14:24:01] <Alina-malina> 50kb/s
[14:33:06] <Alina-malina> abaumann, if i get errors i will paste and show u, i really dont know if i did that correct.
[14:35:36] <abaumann> If not, check if archlinux-keyring and archlinux32-keyring are up to date too.
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[15:51:45] <buildmaster> haskell-http-api-data is broken (says buildknecht3).
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[16:38:58] <Alina-malina> hey abaumann i got the error agaoin
[16:38:59] <Alina-malina> what to do
[16:39:35] <deep42thought> Alina-malina: on which package(s)?
[16:39:46] <Alina-malina> error: libnghttp2: signature from "Andreas Baumann (sign) <mail@andreasbaumann.cc>" is marginal trust
[16:39:46] <Alina-malina> :: File /var/cache/pacman/pkg/libnghttp2-1.29.0-1.0-i686.pkg.tar.xz is corrupted (invalid or corrupted package (PGP signature)).
[16:39:46] <Alina-malina> Do you want to delete it? [Y/n]
[16:39:55] <Alina-malina> apoligize for pasting it here
[16:40:03] <Alina-malina> but i dont remember your bin url
[16:40:08] <deep42thought> ptpb.pw
[16:40:10] <Alina-malina> damn it i dont know what to do
[16:40:21] <deep42thought> pacman-key --list-sigs 16194A82231E9EF823562181C8E8F5A0AF9BA7E7
[16:41:50] <Alina-malina> yes i gout some output
[16:41:51] <Alina-malina> there
[16:42:17] <deep42thought> can you give me the output on ptpb.pb?
[16:42:17] <Alina-malina> "pacman-key --refresh-key" maybe i shoud do just this?
[16:42:32] <Alina-malina> umm sure what was the command | nc something?
[16:42:34] <Alina-malina> could u please remind me?
[16:42:38] <deep42thought> um, is you system time set correctly?
[16:42:39] <Alina-malina> ah nevermind
[16:42:46] <Alina-malina> yes it is
[16:43:21] <Alina-malina> https://ptpb.pw
[16:43:49] <deep42thought> this looks good
[16:44:14] <deep42thought> ah, wait
[16:45:35] <deep42thought> what does --list-sigs give you on mine, tyzoid's and Polichronucci's key give you?
[16:45:56] <deep42thought> these should be signed by your (local) pacman master key
[16:46:07] <Alina-malina> bunch of output
[16:46:42] <deep42thought> each has some lines with "Pacman Keyring Master Key <pacman@localhost>"
[16:46:48] <deep42thought> ?
[16:47:07] <Alina-malina> Pacman Keyring Master Key <pacman@localhost>
[16:47:19] <deep42thought> for each, yes?
[16:47:44] <Alina-malina> i dont think so
[16:48:46] <deep42thought> which of these three misses that line?
[16:49:26] <Alina-malina> there are 7 total i think
[16:49:40] <deep42thought> only three of them need that signature
[16:49:57] <Alina-malina> first 3 of them has it
[16:50:08] <deep42thought> umm, that sounds perfectly right
[16:51:05] <Alina-malina> deep42thought, https://pastebin.com please look at this, i am not sure how to paste in browser to ptpb
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[16:51:31] <deep42thought> I understand the problem
[16:51:37] <deep42thought> but I don't know why it happens
[16:51:44] <deep42thought> somehow, pacman does not trust abaumann's key
[16:52:00] <abaumann> well, it didn't in the past already... :-)
[16:52:09] <deep42thought> but it _has_ three valid signatures of master keys which are in turn signed by your master key ...
[16:52:31] <abaumann> mmh.
[16:54:28] <deep42thought> Alina-malina: as a emergency workaround, you can "pacman-key --lsign-key 16194A82231E9EF823562181C8E8F5A0AF9BA7E7"
[16:54:39] <deep42thought> then, you'll trust abaumann's key directly
[16:55:29] <Alina-malina> so what to do?
[16:55:39] <deep42thought> What does "gpg --homedir /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/ --list-secret-keys" give you?
[16:55:40] <Alina-malina> and how to continue the upgrade without downloading packages again?
[16:55:51] <deep42thought> the packages should be in your cache
[16:55:57] <deep42thought> /var/cache/pacman/pkg
[16:56:05] <Alina-malina> gpg: WARNING: unsafe permissions on homedir '/etc/pacman.d/gnupg'
[16:56:06] <deep42thought> so just do not delete them :-)
[16:56:10] <deep42thought> that's ok
[16:56:19] <deep42thought> any other lines?
[16:56:31] <Alina-malina> can i paste it here?
[16:56:48] <deep42thought> only the one starting with "sec", please
[16:56:55] <Alina-malina> sec rsa2048 2018-02-24 [SC]
[16:57:04] <Alina-malina> some secret key
[16:57:05] <Alina-malina> uid [ultimate] Pacman Keyring Master Key <pacman@localhost>
[16:57:10] <deep42thought> looks ok
[16:58:02] <deep42thought> try to run "pacman-key --lsign-key 16194A82231E9EF823562181C8E8F5A0AF9BA7E7" and see if that fixes the issue
[16:58:24] <Alina-malina> ok done, how to check if the issue is fixed?
[16:58:41] <deep42thought> pacman -Syu
[16:59:07] <Alina-malina> :: Replace archlinux32-keyring-transition with core/archlinux32-keyring? [Y/n] should i say Y?
[16:59:11] <deep42thought> no
[16:59:13] <Alina-malina> i hope it wont continue all from begining
[16:59:14] <deep42thought> sry
[16:59:17] <deep42thought> yes
[16:59:27] <deep42thought> replacing is ok
[16:59:35] <Alina-malina> it will take so long time
[16:59:36] <deep42thought> just don't delete any "corrupted" packages from your cache
[16:59:37] <Alina-malina> like 6 hours
[16:59:44] <Alina-malina> Total Installed Size: 2212.66 MiB
[16:59:44] <Alina-malina> Net Upgrade Size: 115.91 MiB
[16:59:44] <Alina-malina> :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]
[16:59:52] <deep42thought> y
[17:02:12] <Alina-malina> oh looks like it starts upgrading
[17:02:15] <deep42thought> :-)
[17:02:25] <Alina-malina> whew thanks deep42thought i was so much nervious...
[17:03:01] <deep42thought> yay! ... but your slow connection to us is quite worrying
[17:03:40] <Alina-malina> yes heh, i am worried as well
[17:04:24] <deep42thought> sounds like we could need a proxy in your country :-/
[17:04:43] <deep42thought> s/proxy/mirror/
[17:04:46] <Alina-malina> maybe i should use some VPN?
[17:05:00] <deep42thought> usually that makes it slower
[17:05:16] <abaumann> I would check the mirror in pacman.mirrorlist, which one are you using?
[17:05:17] <deep42thought> you're using the sgp mirror, right?
[17:05:28] <Alina-malina> 60Kb/s i think is very slow, i could ask friend to give me ssh to canada and upgrade from there, but i dont trust friend lol
[17:05:31] <Alina-malina> yes
[17:05:41] <Alina-malina> singapore was the fastest one
[17:05:47] <Alina-malina> on the moment when i checked last time
[17:06:19] <deep42thought> but you're not really close to canada, are you?
[17:06:34] <Alina-malina> no i am in armenia
[17:06:36] <Alina-malina> very far
[17:06:44] <Alina-malina> i dont know, i am just thinking options
[17:07:07] <Alina-malina> i think i need to do upgrades only at late night when its 4:00 in the morning in gmt+4 time
[17:07:10] <abaumann> maybe build up your own mirror rsync one of the official ones.
[17:07:12] <Alina-malina> it was quete fast yesterday
[17:07:15] <Alina-malina> oh
[17:07:20] <Alina-malina> i dont know, i am not that advanced
[17:07:22] <Alina-malina> sure why not
[17:07:51] <deep42thought> maybe some country routing your traffic throttles encrypted connections, so they can better listen?
[17:07:53] <deep42thought> ;-P
[17:08:13] <abaumann> :-)
[17:08:35] <Alina-malina> nah, noone needs my country, noone cares about it lol
[17:08:39] <Alina-malina> i am in the middle of nowhere
[17:08:52] <abaumann> that could explain your connection :-)
[17:09:05] <Alina-malina> but i have very high speed internet
[17:09:10] <Alina-malina> 70megabit/sec
[17:09:21] <abaumann> locally. but maybe some international links are slow.
[17:09:38] <Alina-malina> nah we checked last time
[17:09:41] <Alina-malina> it was ok
[17:09:48] <Alina-malina> germany was 60
[17:09:52] <Alina-malina> as far as i remember
[17:10:05] <Alina-malina> maybe its some configurations?
[17:10:07] <deep42thought> then you should have around 60 to mirror.archlinux32.org, as well
[17:10:08] <Alina-malina> in my box
[17:10:18] <Alina-malina> mtr?
[17:10:20] <Alina-malina> maybe its mtr?
[17:10:28] <deep42thought> what's that?
[17:10:33] <Alina-malina> umm some packet for networking
[17:10:45] <Alina-malina> i used it once but i dont remember
[17:10:56] <Alina-malina> ok update is done
[17:11:06] <deep42thought> :-)
[17:12:10] <Alina-malina> can i verify somehow that my system is up to date? pacman -Sy ?
[17:12:15] <deep42thought> yes
[17:12:17] <deep42thought> um
[17:12:19] <deep42thought> pacman -Syu
[17:12:31] <Alina-malina> :: Starting full system upgrade...
[17:12:31] <Alina-malina> there is nothing to do
[17:12:34] <Alina-malina> ah i guess all is ok
[17:12:38] <Alina-malina> thanks deep42thought and abaumann
[17:12:40] <deep42thought> :-)
[17:12:43] <deep42thought> np
[17:14:22] <deep42thought> can you check with wget, how long some larger package (the kernel?) takes to download from the master mirror via different protocols?
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[17:25:04] <Alina-malina> yes
[17:25:15] <Alina-malina> like what package?
[17:26:51] <deep42thought> https://mirror.archlinux32.org
[17:27:03] <deep42thought> vs http://mirror.archlinux32.org
[17:28:01] <Alina-malina> 503.75K 29.6KB/s eta 22m 27s
[17:28:12] <Alina-malina> 27 minutes https
[17:28:12] <deep42thought> the https one?
[17:28:14] <Alina-malina> yes
[17:28:20] <deep42thought> ok, and the other?
[17:28:32] <Alina-malina> 40.1KB/s eta 22m 53 http
[17:28:43] <deep42thought> ok, it's not the protocoll :-)
[17:28:46] <deep42thought> thanks
[17:29:51] <Alina-malina> curl: (33) HTTP server doesn't seem to support byte ranges. Cannot resume. could u tell me why this happening? i tried to install ntopng all day
[17:29:55] <Alina-malina> maybe i install it wrong?
[17:30:05] <Alina-malina> this was the reason to upgrade the packages lol
[17:30:08] <Alina-malina> but seems it did not help
[17:30:37] <deep42thought> looks, like you have a partially downloaded package in your cache
[17:31:38] <Alina-malina> up should i remove it?
[17:32:17] <deep42thought> yeah
[17:32:29] <Alina-malina> pacman -Sc ?
[17:32:42] <deep42thought> no
[17:32:45] <deep42thought> just that single package
[17:33:12] <deep42thought> "sudo rm /var/cache/pacman/pkg/..."
[17:33:47] <Alina-malina> rm: cannot remove '/var/cache/pacman/pkg/ntopng': No such file or directory strange its not there
[17:33:54] <deep42thought> probably one ending in ".partial" or similar
[17:34:08] <deep42thought> press "tab" for auto completion
[17:34:19] <deep42thought> you forgot the version and ending
[17:34:43] <Alina-malina> no there is no such package
[17:35:07] <deep42thought> maybe it was failing on one of the dependenciesß
[17:35:08] <deep42thought> ?
[17:36:39] <Alina-malina> letme ptpb the ouput
[18:00:03] <Alina-malina> https://ptpb.pw jeez so slow download
[18:00:24] <deep42thought> huh?
[18:00:29] <Alina-malina> lol
[18:00:30] <Alina-malina> sorry
[18:00:33] <Alina-malina> did something worng
[18:00:35] <deep42thought> :-)
[18:00:58] <Alina-malina> https://ptpb.pw
[18:01:44] <deep42thought> ah, this is an aur package
[18:02:01] <Alina-malina> is there pacman version of it?
[18:02:06] <deep42thought> what do you use to build that?
[18:02:15] <Alina-malina> yaourt
[18:02:51] <deep42thought> yaourt is not really supported
[18:02:57] <deep42thought> at least not by us
[18:02:59] <Alina-malina> ok maybe i should just download it with wget?
[18:03:07] <Alina-malina> and and run manually?
[18:03:16] <deep42thought> and I think it is not provided on archlinuxfr anymore, since upstream dropped i686, too
[18:03:21] <deep42thought> right
[18:03:30] <deep42thought> that's a good idea, I think
[18:06:02] <abaumann> hurra!
[18:06:13] <Alina-malina> so strange i am wgeting that package, but i have 11 kb/s speed
[18:06:14] <abaumann> I'm through with stage2 of the bootstrap32 project.
[18:06:24] <abaumann> this means, I can no build an Archlinux i486 on itself.
[18:06:25] <Alina-malina> heh congratulations
[18:06:31] <abaumann> thanks
[18:06:41] <Alina-malina> wow i486 lol i remember ihave it like in 1996
[18:06:42] <abaumann> now to stage3 building all of base and base-devel
[18:06:54] <deep42thought> \o/
[18:07:57] <abaumann> curl: (18) transfer closed with 9712382 bytes remaining to read
[18:08:06] <abaumann> ah, curl has some issues when the download ratio is too low.
[18:08:11] <abaumann> and it aborts the download.
[18:08:34] <abaumann> same can happen with pacman/libcurl and for instance darkhttp
[18:09:19] <deep42thought> is this something which can be configured in curl?
[18:09:47] <deep42thought> so: maybe we should lower that limit for all out in-the-middle-of-nowhere users
[18:10:26] <abaumann> I think pacman had id hard coded. but you can use an external downloader. didn't check in yaourt.
[18:10:30] <abaumann> *it
[18:11:04] <deep42thought> Alina-malina: this really sounds, like your country/location has a slow connection to the rest of the world
[18:11:29] <Alina-malina> deep42thought, i tried to wget it from other computer and it went like in 1 second
[18:11:41] <Alina-malina> i am trying to download from arch and its 15kb/s
[18:11:45] <Alina-malina> damn it whats happening
[18:11:51] <Alina-malina> i have cable connection to same router
[18:11:52] <Alina-malina> same isp
[18:12:01] <Alina-malina> but on win machine its 1.5mb/s
[18:12:06] <Alina-malina> and on arch its 15kb/s
[18:12:10] <deep42thought> where is the other computer located from where it downloads fast?
[18:12:19] <Alina-malina> right on the same table
[18:12:22] <Alina-malina> connecte to same router
[18:12:24] <Alina-malina> i have 2 computers
[18:12:34] <deep42thought> and there you can download fast?
[18:12:37] <deep42thought> strange
[18:12:37] <Alina-malina> yes
[18:12:40] <Alina-malina> like 1 second
[18:12:53] <Alina-malina> i just did a speedtest and it is:
[18:13:05] <Alina-malina> Testing download speed................................................................................
[18:13:05] <Alina-malina> Download: 41.46 Mbit/s
[18:13:06] <Alina-malina> Testing upload speed......................................................................................................
[18:13:06] <Alina-malina> Upload: 56.19 Mbit/s
[18:13:21] <Alina-malina> i think there is something with ssl
[18:13:25] <deep42thought> do you have ipv4 and ipv6, maybe one box runs on one and the other on the other?
[18:13:31] <Alina-malina> no no no
[18:13:32] <Alina-malina> same
[18:13:36] <Alina-malina> both ipv6
[18:13:42] <deep42thought> well, ssl needs some cpu power
[18:13:52] <deep42thought> but usually its negligible with respect to internet connection
[18:14:01] <Alina-malina> same with http
[18:14:14] <deep42thought> "same" as in "http is also slow"?
[18:15:03] <Alina-malina> yes
[18:15:07] <Alina-malina> http and https on arch slow
[18:15:15] <Alina-malina> but windows is like 1 second took to download
[18:15:46] <abaumann> What is the link speed on the NIC on linux?
[18:16:08] <deep42thought> abaumann: certainly not 100k
[18:16:19] <abaumann> 1MBit/s NIC, nice. :-)
[18:16:29] <Alina-malina> hm?
[18:17:19] <abaumann> dmesg | grep enp3s0
[18:17:44] <abaumann> or whatever you network link is (check with ifconfig)
[18:17:48] <abaumann> *your
[18:18:27] <Alina-malina> Hey deep42thought https://static.pexels.com just download this on arch and it was 11 mb/s wtf....
[18:19:38] <abaumann> mmh. ok, the speed on the machine is ok..
[18:19:52] <Alina-malina> https://ptpb.pw
[18:20:02] <Alina-malina> maybe github is throatling wget?
[18:20:24] <deep42thought> we definitely not
[18:20:31] <deep42thought> and it was slow on the master mirror, too
[18:21:06] <Alina-malina> again i am trying to download from github and the speed is 13kb/s lol
[18:21:18] <Alina-malina> i dont know what is going on
[18:21:30] <deep42thought> "traceroute github.com"
[18:21:40] <deep42thought> and see, where you're being routed along
[18:21:49] <deep42thought> maybe it's some provider problem
[18:23:01] <Alina-malina> ok i download from win machine to linux machine and the speed was very high as well
[18:23:07] <Alina-malina> ntopng-3.2.tar.gz 100%[=====================================================================================>] 23.07M 9.02MB/s
[18:23:57] <Alina-malina> https://ptpb.pw
[18:23:58] <Alina-malina> deep42thought
[18:24:07] <deep42thought> ah, one problem will/might be, that our master mirror is currently ipv4 only
[18:24:27] <deep42thought> um, but you're on ipv4 anyway
[18:24:30] <Alina-malina> ye
[18:26:39] <deep42thought> if I'm not mistaken, you're being routed via yerevan to california (!?), austria, germany
[18:27:16] <deep42thought> this is certainly not correct
[18:28:55] <deep42thought> do you see a difference between "wget -6 ..." and "wget -4 ..."?
[18:33:15] <Alina-malina> what you mean?
[18:33:25] <Alina-malina> i dont have ipv6 activated
[18:33:30] <deep42thought> ah ok
[18:33:33] <deep42thought> sry
[18:33:42] <Alina-malina> well i manually download that file, but i am not sure where to put it to install again
[18:33:47] <Alina-malina> where is this PKGBUILD directory
[18:33:50] <Alina-malina> so i put it there manually?
[18:34:09] <deep42thought> you can compile in any directory you like
[18:34:26] <Alina-malina> there is no configure file, i am having difficulties with that
[18:34:37] <deep42thought> makepkg
[18:34:51] <deep42thought> put the PKGBUILD into a directory and run makepkg
[18:35:45] <Alina-malina> ==> ERROR: PKGBUILD does not exist.
[18:35:56] <deep42thought> then you ran it in the wrong directory
[18:36:07] <Alina-malina> ummm i create PKGBUILD folder
[18:36:08] <deep42thought> https://wiki.archlinux.org
[18:36:08] <phrik> Title: Arch Build System - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[18:36:15] <deep42thought> no
[18:36:28] <deep42thought> it's common to name the folder by the package ("ntopng" in your case)
[18:36:35] <deep42thought> and download the PKGBUILD into that folder
[18:36:48] <deep42thought> or just clone the git repo from aur
[18:37:09] <deep42thought> git clone https://aur.archlinux.org
[18:38:33] <Alina-malina> ok so i create a folder ntopng in my /home folder and put the tar.gz file inside
[18:38:45] <Alina-malina> do i need to untar it there?
[18:39:03] <deep42thought> where does that tar.gz come from????
[18:39:11] <deep42thought> just clone the aur package and compile that
[18:39:12] <Alina-malina> i download it from archive
[18:39:15] <Alina-malina> ok
[18:39:23] <deep42thought> you need the source of the arch linux package
[18:39:34] <deep42thought> which will most probably download the tar.gz you just downloaded
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[18:43:28] <Alina-malina> omg now i get this strange thing: rm: remove write-protected regular file 'ntopng/.git/objects/63/16c485d68bb675e1ff1b6682d9865734f31a42'
[18:43:30] <Alina-malina> eh
[18:44:06] <deep42thought> you did not accidentally download as root?
[18:44:15] <Alina-malina> nope
[18:44:35] <Alina-malina> ok its gone
[18:45:52] <Alina-malina> ok it start to downloading
[18:46:01] <Alina-malina> with awful speed
[18:46:43] <Alina-malina> Downloading 3.2.tar.gz lol this file i already downloaded
[18:46:51] <Alina-malina> i could just place it in apriprate folder
[18:46:57] <Alina-malina> and run makepkg
[18:47:25] <deep42thought> yes
[18:47:28] <deep42thought> you can do that
[18:48:22] <Alina-malina> so cancel the download?
[18:48:32] <Alina-malina> why this speed so slow omg
[18:48:39] <Alina-malina> 9053
[18:48:58] <deep42thought> yeah, cancel
[18:49:12] <deep42thought> and put your downloaded file next to the PKGBUILD
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[18:51:09] <Alina-malina> ok done
[18:51:12] <Alina-malina> and now?
[18:51:19] <Alina-malina> run git clone command again?
[18:51:22] <deep42thought> no
[18:51:24] <deep42thought> makepkg
[18:51:47] <deep42thought> probably plus some additional options I always forget ...
[18:51:56] <Alina-malina> -> Found 3.2.tar.gz
[18:51:56] <Alina-malina> -> Downloading 2.2.tar.gz..
[18:51:58] <Alina-malina> lol.....
[19:03:00] <Alina-malina> ok its compiling ittself
[19:03:07] <deep42thought> :-)
[19:03:31] <Alina-malina> i hope its not some trojan or backoor compiling ther eand installing into system lol
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[19:03:37] <Alina-malina> scary thing
[19:03:54] <deep42thought> n backdoors -> n+1 backdoors ;-)
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[19:30:35] <Alina-malina> ok deep42thought i have compiled it and installed successfuly
[19:30:42] <deep42thought> :-)
[19:30:43] <Alina-malina> but i have other issues but i think its not that hard to fix
[19:30:45] <Alina-malina> 24/Feb/2018 22:28:23 [Ntop.cpp:1485] Setting local networks to 127.0.0.0/8
[19:30:45] <Alina-malina> 24/Feb/2018 22:28:23 [Redis.cpp:97] ERROR: ntopng requires redis server to be up and running
[19:30:45] <Alina-malina> 24/Feb/2018 22:28:23 [Redis.cpp:98] ERROR: Please start it and try again or use -r
[19:30:45] <Alina-malina> 24/Feb/2018 22:28:23 [Redis.cpp:99] ERROR: to specify a redis server other than the default
[19:31:04] <Alina-malina> do you know what is this redis? is this something like apache?
[19:31:32] <deep42thought> I'm not sure, _what_ this is
[19:31:38] <deep42thought> but it's an official package :-)
[19:32:05] <Alina-malina> lol ok :)
[19:32:08] <Alina-malina> thanks for help
[19:44:15] <abaumann> You have to start the redis server (a key-value store), ntopng seems to store it's data there.
[19:44:18] <abaumann> See https://wiki.archlinux.org
[19:44:18] <phrik> Title: Redis - ArchWiki (at wiki.archlinux.org)
[19:44:50] <deep42thought> abaumann: is this similar to memcached?
[19:44:56] <abaumann> yes. quite.
[19:45:08] <abaumann> just with persistence. :-)
[19:45:09] <deep42thought> ah, there I heard that name before ...
[19:45:39] <abaumann> 'systemctl start redis' might be all you need
[19:50:52] <abaumann> Then 'systemctl start ntopng@ens3.service', or whatever is your network interface.
[19:51:23] <abaumann> Navigate to http://localhost:3000 and there is your ntopng
[19:52:03] <abaumann> mmh. neat little tool. :-)
[19:52:15] <abaumann> I'll stick to zabbix, cacti or mrtg directly though..
[19:53:36] <deep42thought> I thought, ntopng was some image converter :-/
[19:53:43] <abaumann> heh.
[19:53:53] <abaumann> no, ntop was a cli similar to top (or still is)
[19:54:03] <abaumann> didn't know, they had a web tool too
[19:55:26] <abaumann> ntop is basically the same, but using gdbm as database..
[20:02:34] <oaken-source> abaumann: I'll just leave this here, in case it will be useful: https://github.com
[20:02:35] <phrik> Title: GitHub - oaken-source/parabola-riscv64-bootstrap (at github.com)
[20:02:58] <oaken-source> for cross-compile patches and such
[20:04:34] <abaumann> thanks. will definitely try this. :-)
[20:04:57] <abaumann> Just finished "my" stage2 which is now able to rebuild itself.
[20:05:18] <abaumann> still, too much patching is needed, so it might break fast, if changes happen upstreams.
[20:06:47] <oaken-source> the changes are a pain, yeah. I hope to be able to build stage3 (native build in cross-makepkg chroot using qemu-static) with minimal patches.
[20:07:51] <Alina-malina> abaumann, yes it worked perfectly
[20:07:58] <abaumann> cool :-)
[20:08:25] <Alina-malina> i just run redis with systemctl start redis
[20:08:45] <abaumann> oaken-source: my stage3 will hopefully be a full base + base-devel
[20:08:51] <Alina-malina> deep42thought, lol no its not image converter, its cool tool for network monitoring very useful to do this at home
[20:09:08] <abaumann> but I expect some cycles around systemd, glib2, and others. :-)
[20:10:17] <oaken-source> yeah, base would be useful for booting in VM
[20:10:23] <oaken-source> I'm a bit scared of kernel config and such
[20:10:30] <abaumann> oaken-source: you went with patch files for the PKGBUILD diffs, which is more stable than arbitrary seds.. I thought about doing some error checking in a wrapper to see if I'm actually sedding the correct thing..
[20:10:46] <abaumann> for riscv, aeh. no clue.
[20:10:59] <abaumann> I went for a static kernel, avoiding the ramdisk and the modules.
[20:11:08] <abaumann> But this might be very 486-specific.
[20:11:24] <oaken-source> yeaaahhh.. I need to talk to the #riscv guys more about kernel stuff ^^
[20:11:33] <abaumann> :-)
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