#archlinux-ports | Logs for 2018-03-07
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[19:41:00] <buildmaster> deep42thought: my database is dirty again ...
[19:47:50] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
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[20:00:55] <buildmaster> helm is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[20:02:12] <abaumann> tyzoid: BBS, on the register page, is it possible to put a captcha of some sort there to tame the spam in our forum?
[20:02:29] <tyzoid> abaumann: This level of spam is *after* the captcha
[20:02:44] <deep42thought> umm, maybe a more complex captcha?
[20:03:04] <deep42thought> "Solve \sum_i=0^\infty 2^-i = x"
[20:03:10] <abaumann> *grin*
[20:03:12] <tyzoid> Captchas only prevent automated bots
[20:03:29] <abaumann> So, the ones we get really do the registering by hand?
[20:03:34] <abaumann> What a sad life..
[20:03:35] <tyzoid> Pretty much.
[20:03:47] <tyzoid> Mostly middle east/russian spammers
[20:03:49] <abaumann> Oh. Well, then. :-)
[20:04:08] <tyzoid> I had the same issue on a well-set-up mybb forum a few years back
[20:04:16] <tyzoid> only solution is better moderation/filtering tools
[20:04:42] <deep42thought> we could insta-ban every user posting larger posts mostly identical to other ones
[20:05:01] <tyzoid> we could... but we're deleting the existing posts already
[20:05:02] <deep42thought> or every post with >50% cyrillic letters ;-)
[20:05:08] <tyzoid> so we'd need to build up a library of posts
[20:05:29] <abaumann> yeah. no I just thought, there is an easy way..
[20:05:30] <deep42thought> actually, I delete quite a lot of users with identical posts within a few minutes
[20:05:45] <tyzoid> and there are people who would legitimately double post because their internet is slow
[20:05:52] <abaumann> true
[20:05:54] <deep42thought> yes
[20:06:38] <tyzoid> Problem is the good plugins for this sort of thing don't really exist for fluxbb
[20:07:28] <abaumann> Something like the first post has to be manually approved before allowing more posts?
[20:07:46] <tyzoid> ^ That's what I was thinking of writing for flux
[20:08:04] <tyzoid> but MyBB had a spamminess heuristic that used a free cloud service to do analysis
[20:08:08] <tyzoid> and that worked pretty well
[20:08:13] <abaumann> https://fluxbb.org
[20:08:14] <phrik> Title: Moderate initial post (feature request) / Feature requests / FluxBB Forums (at fluxbb.org)
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[20:09:05] <tyzoid> Yup. i.e. doesn't exist as is
[20:09:21] <deep42thought> how about that: https://xkcd.com
[20:09:22] <phrik> Title: xkcd: Constructive (at xkcd.com)
[20:09:26] <abaumann> yeah, and the feature request is 9 1/2 years old. :-)
[20:09:32] <deep42thought> ui
[20:09:51] <tyzoid> deep42thought: It's a good idea in theory, but it means bothering existing users
[20:10:01] <deep42thought> I know, was just a joke
[20:10:04] <tyzoid> "Is this post constructive?"
[20:10:21] <deep42thought> "This post is, but this question is not."
[20:10:38] <tyzoid> User response: "Yo mamma's not constructive"
[20:10:54] <deep42thought> -> delete user
[20:11:03] <tyzoid> yup
[20:11:07] <tyzoid> back to square one
[20:11:34] <abaumann> self-declaration: "Are you a spamer?" and a checkbox for yes/no. ;-)
[20:11:45] <tyzoid> isn't that the google captcha box?
[20:12:09] <abaumann> no, that's "let's be nice to Google and fill their repository of training data for AI".
[20:12:15] <tyzoid> ah
[20:12:30] <abaumann> :-)
[20:13:30] <abaumann> basically: a list with all users and top posts with check boxes and then a delete button, so you can solve the spam problem basically by ticking posts and users and one click.
[20:13:33] <tyzoid> Ahh, I see you, user 5264358. Trying to sneak by with javascript disabled, are we? Well, looks like you can't sign up for FooBarBaz Service! *laughs maniacally*
[20:13:57] <abaumann> that's most likely me with w3m or lynx :-)
[20:14:24] <abaumann> can't we solve that with a block-chain? ;-)
[20:14:30] <deep42thought> :-D
[20:14:36] <tyzoid> lol
[20:14:51] <tyzoid> We just need to do what Max Barry does with his email: https://maxbarry.com
[20:14:52] <phrik> Title: Max | E-mail Max (at maxbarry.com)
[20:15:06] <tyzoid> "Please put the word "duck" in your subject title, e.g. "[duck] Why you're an idiot." I get lots of spam and this prevents your message from being accidentally filtered."
[20:15:35] <abaumann> sweet :-)
[20:15:54] <tyzoid> All legitimate users note: Please include the phrase 'Micro$oft Sucks' in the title of your post to prevent it from being flagged as spam.
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[20:40:31] <buildmaster> deep42thought: my database is dirty again ...
[20:41:21] <tyzoid> lol
[20:41:51] <abaumann> buildmaster: there, have a sponge..
[20:42:47] <buildmaster> abaumann: I already have /usr/bin/sponge
[20:43:28] <abaumann> huh? buildmaster starts to get really intelligent. :-)
[20:43:48] * deep42thought has ssh access to the build master ;-)
[20:44:04] <tyzoid> trololol
[20:44:10] <abaumann> * abaumann got fooled nicely :-)
[20:44:21] <tyzoid> abaumann: That once legitimately happened in ##C with their bot
[20:44:33] <tyzoid> a user once thought the bot was a person
[20:47:24] <deep42thought> hmm, my current trial of putting db-update into a stored function takes 8 minutes to finish :-/
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[22:14:32] <buildmaster> haskell-http-api-data is broken (says buildknecht2).
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[23:38:26] <buildmaster> deep42thought: my database is dirty again ...
[23:39:27] <deep42thought> "ERROR 1205 (HY000) at line 1: Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction"
[23:39:29] <deep42thought> hmmm
[23:41:07] <deep42thought> noone actually tries to "restart the transaction" ...
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[23:44:20] <buildmaster> deep42thought: my database is dirty again ...
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